Page AZ...Antelope Canyon

[Zeppelinium]

Phantom,

When you're out west, most of the land is BLM, but along the highways it's often private, just in a narrow strip, but enough to keep you corraled on the highway. If you see gates in the highway fence that say "please keep gate closed" you can almost bet that it's BLM land and you can boondock to your heart's content.

In case you get there before we do, here's the detail for boondocking in the Vermillion Cliffs/Coyote Buttes area. Google the BLM for Paria River, White House Trailhead, etc. and you'll get lots of hits--some of the private pages are excellent. Anyway, call the BLM (not open every day in the winter, so you may wind up talking to Kanab or St George)--they are very helpful.





You should be able to get to the campsite with an Airstream, unless there has been a washout. The BLM folks should be able to tell you, or suggest alternate boondocking locations.

Zep

[Airstream25]

Hey Zep, this is great. Looking forward to this rally.

Originally Posted by Zeppelinium

The map below shows the planned location of the first weekend/week. Note that this area is between the two branches of US-89. The north branch goes to Kanab, the south branch goes to the North Rim. There are two BLM offices between our planned camp location and Page. One is for the Paria trailhead and the other one, more to the east, is the main Escalante Center.

The whole area around White Pocket is incredible. I think a week is way too little time to spend in the area. Our planned boon dock camp is at the top of the map. You can get an Airstream down House Rock Road about half way to Wire Pass, but then you find some a gully that is no problem for a car or truck, but the dip is too short/steep for a mid-wheel trailer. House Rock Road maintenance varies--sometimes smooth, other times rough.

Wire Pass is the entrance for both Buckskin Slot Canyon and North Coyote Buttes, where the Wave is. You can see Buckskin Canyon under the arrow pointing to North Coyote Buttes. Permits for Buckskin and South Coyote are relatively easy to obtain. A permit for the Wave is very difficult, if you don't get one in the first minute [via the web] or so when the window opens for the month.

You can drive to White Pocket from the camp for a day trip, but it would be 2-3 hours in, then the same back out. Probably best to do a one night tent camp there.

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Zep

[myoung]

I wonder if we might set some dates and schedules now and put them on the forum calendar. Got to make some plans. I'm itching to get on the road.

[Boondocker]

If it takes place this spring after late April I am very much interested in doing this.

[Zeppelinium]

the 4CU is considering hosting one location per year. There might a conflict in April.

Never-the-less, I am proposing the following:

24 April - Buckskin/Page
1 May - Muley Overlook/Bluff
8 May - Sinbad I-70/Green River

Let's see an informal show of hands for these dates and locations.

Zep

[Boondocker]

The April date doesnt work for me, but the others are better.

[myoung]

Originally Posted by Zeppelinium

the 4CU is considering hosting one location per year. There might a conflict in April.

Never-the-less, I am proposing the following:

24 April - Buckskin/Page
1 May - Muley Overlook/Bluff
8 May - Sinbad I-70/Green River

Let's see an informal show of hands for these dates and locations.

Zep

But, the May 8th date is okay with me. I have teaching obligations thru May 1st. However, the rest of May thru say May 24th works well.

[Boondocker]

Originally Posted by myoung

But, the May 8th date is okay with me. I have teaching obligations thru May 1st. However, the rest of May thru say May 24th works well.

I can do those dates I think

[Zeppelinium]

We could get all the dates in May if we didn't make each location targeted for a weekend. If we did 3 days at the first location, travel 1, 3 days at the second location, travel 1, then 3 days at the third location, the whole thing would be 11 days. If we started on 4 May (arrive the evening of 3 May), we might even luck into standby passes for The Wave, since it would be the middle of the week.

If it needed to be cut a little further, either make it two days at Muley Point (that would provide time to see at least two, maybe three anasazi ruins) and then two days (or whenever you want to leave) up in the Sinbad. That would allow us to arrive on the 3rd of May and split up on the 12th or 13th.

We need to hear from other interested members right away.

Zep

[Boondocker]

Originally Posted by Zeppelinium

We could get all the dates in May if we didn't make each location targeted for a weekend. If we did 3 days at the first location, travel 1, 3 days at the second location, travel 1, then 3 days at the third location, the whole thing would be 11 days. If we started on 4 May (arrive the evening of 3 May), we might even luck into standby passes for The Wave, since it would be the middle of the week.

If it needed to be cut a little further, either make it two days at Muley Point (that would provide time to see at least two, maybe three anasazi ruins) and then two days (or whenever you want to leave) up in the Sinbad. That would allow us to arrive on the 3rd of May and split up on the 12th or 13th.

We need to hear from other interested members right away.

Zep

I'm in!, just put it on the calender

[Lumatic]

I'm interested, but don't know about my schedule
Marshall

[Airstream25]

Originally Posted by Zeppelinium

the 4CU is considering hosting one location per year. There might a conflict in April.
Never-the-less, I am proposing the following:

24 April - Buckskin/Page
1 May - Muley Overlook/Bluff
8 May - Sinbad I-70/Green River
Let's see an informal show of hands for these dates and locations.
Zep

Zep,
These dates look good to me. I think we would do the Buckskin/Page and part of the Overlook/Bluff and skip the last location.

Sounds like a great trip foregoing campgrounds for really good scenery!
Jerry

[Airstream25]

Hey Zep,
Are the dates firm and how do we go about applying for any necessary permits?

Originally Posted by Zeppelinium

The map below shows the planned location of the first weekend/week. Note that this area is between the two branches of US-89. The north branch goes to Kanab, the south branch goes to the North Rim. There are two BLM offices between our planned camp location and Page. One is for the Paria trailhead and the other one, more to the east, is the main Escalante Center.

The whole area around White Pocket is incredible. I think a week is way too little time to spend in the area. Our planned boon dock camp is at the top of the map. You can get an Airstream down House Rock Road about half way to Wire Pass, but then you find some a gully that is no problem for a car or truck, but the dip is too short/steep for a mid-wheel trailer. House Rock Road maintenance varies--sometimes smooth, other times rough.

Wire Pass is the entrance for both Buckskin Slot Canyon and North Coyote Buttes, where the Wave is. You can see Buckskin Canyon under the arrow pointing to North Coyote Buttes. Permits for Buckskin and South Coyote are relatively easy to obtain. A permit for the Wave is very difficult, if you don't get one in the first minute [via the web] or so when the window opens for the month.

You can drive to White Pocket from the camp for a day trip, but it would be 2-3 hours in, then the same back out. Probably best to do a one night tent camp there.

Zep

[Boondocker]

My schedule has changed, I cant do this until the last half of May. Anyone interested in doing it then?

[myoung]

Originally Posted by Gen Disarray

My schedule has changed, I cant do this until the last half of May. Anyone interested in doing it then?

I am available in May between the 6th and the 24th inclusive.

[Lumatic]

May 18 to May 26 for us. May 19 to May 25 is better.

[Airstream25]

Originally Posted by Lumatic

May 18 to May 26 for us. May 19 to May 25 is better.

Wondering if that late will be too warm to boondock comfortably?

[Boondocker]

Originally Posted by Airstream25

Wondering if that late will be too warm to boondock comfortably?

I hope not, because I am going to be doing it

[myoung]

Originally Posted by Airstream25

Wondering if that late will be too warm to boondock comfortably?

Here's a graph of high and low temps for each day in May 2009. Looks like perfect weather to me. Can't wait to enjoy the shoots and the good company.

[Boondocker]

Can we make a trip starting on the 18th work?