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Old 01-17-2007, 08:55 PM   #211
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I have read and watched enough to know that the decision needs to be made ahead of time. Hesitating can kill you. If it is them or me I will shoot to kill and see the therapist later.
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I'm with Nuge on this one. A 9mm is better than a sharp stick, but that's about it. .38 special is about the same. You get up to a .45 acp, then you're starting to get somewhere. .44 mag is better than any of the aforementioned ones.

S&W X-frame in .460 S&W or .500 S&W magnums; Now you're talking! They only hold five, but you only need one. Besides, it's like my Thompson Center Encore .30-06 pistol with the scope on it. You'd never need to fire it anyway. Just seeing that beast strikes terror into mortal men

I've one handed .454 Cassul's. They are pussycats compared to the Encore. That thing is a real animal. It's a rush to fire though.

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Old 01-18-2007, 09:56 AM   #213
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So I guess a .50AE would be getting somewhere too....
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:26 AM   #214
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You guys really need to rethink the "discharging of a firearm in an airstream" thing - I liken it to somebody with a metal garbage can over their head and beating it with a hammer. That's gotta hurt.

If you are in the trailer than any old blunt object will do - hammer, frying pan, table leg, etc - just wack them over the head as they try to crawl through the window. If you are not there then a firearm left unprotected is a danger to you and everybody else.

Don't get me wrong - I am there with you to protect life and limb - and if it comes to it my .45 will do all the talking for me. I just would rather hear them wimper for a while with a few good wacks from Mr Louisville Slugger.
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What the heck just put out a few claymores around the perimeter, that way you won't have to clean up the mess inside the trailer.
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Sounds good Silvertwinkie. I take it you've got a Desert Eagle. Only bad thing about the .50's is feeding them. You don't buy that ammo cheap.

I myself have been toying with the idea of getting one of those X-frame Smith and Wessons as a hunting gun. The .500 iis the power champ, but hte .50 caliber bullets are pretty spendy. I hand load, so that softens the blow a little, but they're still expensive. The .460, while not quite as powerful, is still very potent. And it uses convential .45 diameter bullets so you can load them cheap. You can shoot .45 long colts, .454 Cassuls, and the .460 mags out of it.

Clancyboy has a very good point. What's more, I'd bet $100 that a .22 would go through an Airstream, much less any of these other cannons. Really, you have to be careful. I've been shooting since I was four. It's a very rewarding passtime. You have to exercise common sense and safety though.

It'd be a pretty hard up criminal to break into a travel trailer with the owner inside it. Really, they'd be a lot smarter to watch your house. Then when they see the Airstream leave, it'd be open season for the hacienda.

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Old 01-18-2007, 03:30 PM   #217
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I think you said the magic words...common sense is king.

One other thing that rings true is the .50ae ammo has gone up through the roof. I use to be able to get a box of 20 for $16.00.

The one thing I can do, is buy the .44 barrel and mag, which would reduce my overall cost in the long run if I shoot at the range regularly. If I went to the .357, I'd have to change the firing pin......doing the .44 lowers the cost, and is a quick field swap....though the .44 barrel and clip do have a bit of a cost to them.

One thing is for sure though, I got real use to the mule kick of the .50. I got some great groupings with that monster. It'll take me some time to get as good with the .44 having overcompensated all these years with the .50 kickback.

It's odd...I hate golf....trying to get that darn ball in a hole many yards away drives me nuts, but getting a good grouping at the range is very relaxing and rewarding.

As for discharging it in an Airstream....I think the shockwave would blow out all my windows...let alone not being able to hear for weeks! Even if I missed, I'm liable to give the intruder a heart attack.....or break his leg as the shockwave taps him off balance.....
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What about putting a dead bolt lock into the door? Get a nice silver colored one. It'd be easy enough to rig up. I was thinking about a new house type knob for mine anyway. My pull type handle doesn't seem to want to lay flat when it relaxes. I've seen photos of some old airstreams that had door knobs that look like they came right off a house. If you were changing out to that, I'd think it'd be no biggie to add a dead bolt and cut a place in the door way frame to allow the bolt to engage.
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thats my new toy from Magnum Research (also makers of the desert eagle) they say BFR stands for "biggest "finest" revolver"... single action..5 shot...but it only takes one with the monster...if I miss there V-16 long slide 45super. My thompson can go 375rem...or 410
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Jeeze, this is starting to sound like my gun is bigger than your gun! OK guys, I hear you, you want to make sure what you have works like a charm. I just wanted to mention that the heavier calibers, especially magnums do not get that second shot off as fast as some of the smaller calibers and you have to be mindful of where that bullet goes after passing through the perp (if it does) or worse, misses him, goes out the end of your trailer and into someone elses. Obviously bullet construction (hollow points of various types, Glaser Safety Slug) helps with most calibers. Yes, noise can be a problem with those magnums but you probably won't notice with your stress level up.

My fellow officers use to laugh at me when I would challenge them to speed competition vs. target score and I would use my S&W Mdl. 29 8 3/8" barrel .44 Mag. revolver using 215 gr. gas check lead bullets behind a healthy dose of 2400 powder. They were using S&W Mdl. 10 heavy barrel revolvers with 158 gr. RNL. I didn't win all the runs we made but it sure was fun. Practice made it easier to control the big revolver.

Our department went from revolvers to the Glock 22 in 40 S&W in '06 after two of our Transportation Officers were ambushed by a woman trying to free her husband who was leaving the courthouse. She killed one officer before he had a chance to draw his weapon. The second officer shot her twice as she drove away with her husband. Both will be doing time for murder soon enough.

My advice, carry what you can control but don't overdo it. The 9 is only as good as the +P+ ammo you carry in it therefore I carry a Springfield Armory XD40 with Remington 165 gr. Golden Sabre JHP or a highly modified Colt 1991 in 45 ACP with 185 gr. Golden Sabre JHP but not the +P version. Happy carrying.
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Carry...oh yeah...well most of those come with an optional wheel kit for trailering...carry is a taurus titainium 7 shot 357. Most of my needs are copperhead control and peace of mind from an exploding black bear population. the ported barrel helps muzzel flip...but is sure rough on the ears!
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thats my new toy from Magnum Research (also makers of the desert eagle) they say BFR stands for "biggest "finest" revolver"...

Yea, that's a heck of a machine. I like how the "finest" is in quotes, as others have improvised a word for "finest"
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I just wanted to mention that the heavier calibers, especially magnums do not get that second shot off as fast as some of the smaller calibers and you have to be mindful of where that bullet goes after passing through the perp (if it does) or worse, misses him, goes out the end of your trailer and into someone elses.
Continuing off-topic: There are SO many problems with folks carrying guns, and these are, of course, two that aren't not frequently considered.

There are a number of things I really like about the .45ACP; one of which is the incredible knock-down power for a handgun round... over it's hundred year history, it's logged something over 99% one-shot-stops, yet is controllable by all but the smallest hands.

I have authorized both .40 and .45ACP for my officers, but I'm the only one in my department who currently caries a .45ACP. I'm pleased to see more law enforcement departments re-authorizing the .45ACP. I hope that soon we'll all be carrying phasers set to 'stun', although I suppose that an Airstream aluminum interior would reflect the beam like a house of mirrors and be worse than the noise of a gun discharge in a tube...

Back on topic: I haven't heard whether Chris Deam ever saw his 16' custom CCD again.


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Held in my hand yesterday the new Taurus modeled after the 1911 Colt. It feels smaller and better balanced than the colt. the price was about $600.00.

I currently carry a Taurus Millenium 9mm and am not too fond of it, but it is the safest pistol I have ever owned as it is double action only.

What I really want is a Kimber pro conceal 40 cal., but they are hard to come by.
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