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Old 05-01-2013, 09:15 PM   #29
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I would say that is not a problem at all, considering it goes away as the panels cool, just normal expansion.

Great looking rig, by the way. You guys are in for a fun summer, I don't think we're going to get one here in Minnesota; heavy snow forecast tonight.

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Old 05-01-2013, 09:55 PM   #30
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I had several rivets pop over the kitchen area. Some appeared not to be riveted into anything. Those I replaced with slightly oversize ones. All the ones I replaced about 6 mos.—one year after buying have stayed in and I never riveted anything before.

Sometimes the sensors don't work because dirt gets into the contacts. The wires and plugs are telephone wire. One end is at the tanks and not all that simple to access. There are access plates under the tanks and you might be able to get to the plugs, but I'd save it for the dealer. These monitors are notoriously inaccurate, but after a while, you get the hang of it and be able to estimate how much is in each tank.

No faucet should drip. Glad to hear you have a Moen because I think it is better quality than Delta. It may be the cartridge. For all the washers, seats and cartridges I've replaced, I've never had problem with a single handle faucet, but there is a bolt at the base of the spigot that probably can be unscrewed. I would think the cartridge is under that. The paperwork for the faucet may have a exploded view of the faucet so you can figure out how to get to it. Or, it may be online. As much as I like Moen, their paperwork is poor, unfortunately.

There should be a visible spark when you light a burner. Might be a lose connection or faulty part. I think the reason it lights when hot is either expansion makes a poor connection tighter, or a very weak (and invisible) spark may be just enough to light a hot burner.

The aluminum front on the fridge is an insert and if cut a little too small, can come out. Ours barely stays in, but hasn't fallen out. It may be cut at Airstream or by Dometic.

The windows are strange. It can be difficult to get the arms to seat, but I can't imagine how they would slowly close if they were seated at all. You may not be seating them properly. Have you tried them in the next position up to see if they go in better and to see just how they work? Both sides of this are mass produced and should not be out of line or too short or too long, so this is perplexing. I imagine the windows come as one piece from the manufacturer and hard to mess up when installed.

I wish we had your punch list. I even wish we had Bob's. Ours was much longer. Finally, things settled down. All of your items are warranty issues and are not all that hard to repair.

Our subwoofer did not have a switch to turn it off. It was a drain on the battery when boondocking. I installed a switch. The settings on the subwoofer were wrong and it made noise. I turned it off and it has stayed off ever since. I can live without one and probably should just remove it and reduce tongue wt.

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Old 05-01-2013, 10:59 PM   #31
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I've had my 2013 International 19 for two months and I'm fairly pleased with the build quality.

Only issues so far (3 trips....8 overnights).

1. corroded grab handle......outside door
2. ill-fitted led light over bed....gap in wood
3. leaky water heater drain plug.....when under pressure

The dealer actually created more significant problems than did Airstream. They incorrectly installed the Husky Weight Distribution System. This caused the trailer to ride high in the front and spring bars to catch on driveway entrances and exits. The system was way too stiff.

Just found out today that they installed spring bars intended for a trailer with a tongue weight of between 801-1,200 pounds and max gross trailer weight of 12,000 pounds. Our 19 footer is rated at 550 tongue weight and 4600 gross trailer weight. The ones they installed were way too heavy and could have caused major problems down the road. Thanks to a "thinking" employee of the dealership this was spotted and will be resolved.
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:06 AM   #32
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"The dealer actually created more significant problems than did Airstream. They incorrectly installed the Husky Weight Distribution System. This caused the trailer to ride high in the front and spring bars to catch on driveway entrances and exits. The system was way too stiff."

Well that's not good.

Easy way out...."install the one we have in stock"

I guess it's very fortunate that there was someone there who knew better.

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Old 05-02-2013, 02:17 PM   #33
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Here is a pic of the warp for reference. Same on the other side as well.
We have never had a problem with warping like that.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:01 PM   #34
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We have never had a problem with warping like that.

You are lucky. Mine does it when it gets hot from the sun then straightens out when not in the sun. It never happened on my 87 even in the Texas heat. I just figured it was normal on the newer trailers.
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It seems a shame to take the long trip to the dealer if the faucet leak is the only reason. That is unless you're passing by anyway. It's pretty straightforward to replace the faucet cartridge so just pick one up and see if that corrects the leak. I'm sure you can find a U-tube video that will show how it's done.

Our trailer is at George's shop as I type getting some road-trip damage repaired. I didn't know him from his previous employment but I did like him and his work ethic so I'm happy that he's doing the job for us. He came highly recommended from a forum member. It should be repaired over the next couple of weeks ( I Hope).

Hope you get your new trailer straightened out for your summer travels.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:27 PM   #36
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You are lucky. Mine does it when it gets hot from the sun then straightens out when not in the sun. It never happened on my 87 even in the Texas heat. I just figured it was normal on the newer trailers.
Bluto,

I can say id did not happen on my 2006 Safari. I don't know if we will have the problem with the new Classic.

I will post my experience as we get through the summer.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:47 PM   #37
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Window closing at lowest setting...

We had (still have) the same problem with one window. Took it to a dealer (not where we bought the unit, but one closer to home). They worked and worked but in the end could not get it to stay open. We now just live with it. I cut a piece of firm foam padding to slip under the window at that setting and forget about it. IMO the geometry is too extreme (angle too acute) at the lowest setting coupled with some movement at the top hinge.

We discovered the pantry drawer lying in the middle of the floor when we were at the top of Wolf Creek Pass. The plastic latch is inadequate and the slides were attached to the cheesy pressed board with 4 inadequate screws. I reattached it with 8 bigger screws from Ace Hardware. The factory has offered to rebuild the unit, but my repair works fine. The fact that the slides now bind slightly is an improvement, not a hindrance--it ensures that the cheesy plastic latch isn't the only thing holding the drawer in.

All in all, our 2010 Flying Cloud 27FB has been terrific and far better built than the diesel pusher motorhome we had previously.
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Old 05-11-2013, 02:10 PM   #38
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You know we used to lose rivets here and there inside the trailer before we bought and installed the centramatic wheel balancers. Since you trailer is new, I think they are a worthwhile very small investment to make. Many threads on the forum about them.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:30 PM   #39
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I will recommend the following: if you are in need of fellow AS to fly some "shakedown" cruises for you, pipe up here! I might be cajoled into helping!
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:05 PM   #40
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You know we used to lose rivets here and there inside the trailer before we bought and installed the centramatic wheel balancers. Since you trailer is new, I think they are a worthwhile very small investment to make. Many threads on the forum about them.
Thank you. These seem great am I am going to check out the other threads about them as well!
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We had (still have) the same problem with one window. Took it to a dealer (not where we bought the unit, but one closer to home). They worked and worked but in the end could not get it to stay open. We now just live with it. I cut a piece of firm foam padding to slip under the window at that setting and forget about it. IMO the geometry is too extreme (angle too acute) at the lowest setting coupled with some movement at the top hinge.

We discovered the pantry drawer lying in the middle of the floor when we were at the top of Wolf Creek Pass. The plastic latch is inadequate and the slides were attached to the cheesy pressed board with 4 inadequate screws. I reattached it with 8 bigger screws from Ace Hardware. The factory has offered to rebuild the unit, but my repair works fine. The fact that the slides now bind slightly is an improvement, not a hindrance--it ensures that the cheesy plastic latch isn't the only thing holding the drawer in.

All in all, our 2010 Flying Cloud 27FB has been terrific and far better built than the diesel pusher motorhome we had previously.
I agree with the geometry being extreme. I just put them at second level or higher now. Thanks for your idea about the fi wedge!
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:25 PM   #42
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Window closing at lowest setting

I've got another case of a window not opening. This is on a brand new 25FB Flying cloud. The rear side window rests against the bottom when the rods are in the lowest holes. We measured and found that the slots at the side of the window (where the rods go through, with the fuzzy gaskets) are located 1/4 of an inch higher, than on the adjacent window. The adjacent window stands about two inches open, when the rods are in the lowest position.

We have yet to talk to the dealer about this....just did the measurements today.
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