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Old 07-25-2012, 09:13 AM   #15
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...tell me about the 12V router for BB.
Well as an example here is one router I use (it pugs into my 12v outlet). If you scroll down you will see the "devices" that work with it (e.g. Verizon Blackberry). Devices provide the wireless internet connection via a wireless carrier. A phone with tethering capability can be a device, as can data card or a mifi deivce. The router lets you share the tethered connection with multiple computers.

The Cradlepoints are nice because on some models you can plug multiple devices in and it will switch to which ever one has a connection. I connect for example, a Sprint device and an ATT device, and between the two we can usually always get internet.

3G store can help you find a router that might work with your BB.

I hope that helps.
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How much does it cost to do this?
$20, $30, $40, $50, $80 per month. It depends on your data usage.
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$20, $30, $40, $50, $80 per month. It depends on your data usage.
My iPhone still has unlimited data usage through AT&T. We got it when we first got iPhones 4 years ago and as long as we don't change our plan they can't change that. (Although I got a text from them the other day that said "Your data usage is near 3GB this month. Exceeding 3GB during this or future billing cycles will result in reduced data speeds, though you'll still be able to email & surf the web." That's how they still get to you.) So, I am just wondering how much it costs to enable tethering on my iPhone. AT&T charges for that
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:23 AM   #18
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Geez, so many options! Our little MacBook with a recently installed enhanced Air Port does a great job looking for wi-fi (Safeway Stores have wi-fi, as do other places). As far as campgrounds with wi-fi, it's a crap-shoot; some only have one transmitter, which makes for slow and spotty service, or none, if a big mo/ho is blocking the signal. KOA in Flagstaff recently installed two more towers, which makes a big difference.
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So, I am just wondering how much it costs to enable tethering on my iPhone. AT&T charges for that
I do not know Apple phones that well but based on my experience.... expect to pay about $30 for 5GB/month as a add-on. For another $20 (less with a discount) you can get a MiFi and keep your phone separate or as a data backup.

The carriers like to use any opportunity to get us off unlimited plans and will definitely use throttling to annoy you enough to change. Assuming ATT supports your phone for their tethering plan, you may want to ask them if you will loose your phone-only unlimited data, if you add-on a tethered data plan.

Another option is to jailbreak your phone and use it tethered or as a wifi hotspot - I do not know how to do that but there are how-to gudes and services out on the WWW. Once you start using it in that mode, you will still have unlimited data, but you will probabaly hit that 3GB throttling point even sooner.
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I've read the original post and some of the replies. Basically, I want to point out a couple of things. You're "mixing metaphors". I'll explain.

Do you want internet access while on the road (highway or campground)? If so, then you want access via mobile broadband. That isn't WiFi.

WiFi is a local area connectivity solution. It is shorthand for wireless fidelity and was designed to replace wired connections to a router which, in turn, was connected to the internet.

If you're interested in the iPhone 5 (rumored for September release) then I'd consider upgrading to the plan that allows you to share the internet connection with other devices like a laptop. This is commonly called making it a mobile hotspot. Once the iPhone gets a data connection you'd turn on the capability (Settings) and access your iPhone's wireless signal from your computer.

If you didn't want this capability full time then I'd suggest getting a pay-as-you-go plan from Verizon to use with one of their MiFi Jetpacks. They have a variety of data plans on a month-by-month basis. Why Verizon? Because they've been doing it longer and offer the service as does Sprint. Sprint, however, doesn't have the coverage nationwide that Verizon does.

Now, if you want pure WiFi access while at a campground (most don't charge) then you'd need to ask on checkin about wireless internet access. Some require a password to access the wireless signal and some don't. The only "gotcha" about that is your location within the campground and within your unit. Trees with rain, other units, distance, and number of users at one time all effect the performance you'll experience.
Not sure if you were addressing me specifically, but I was not mixing them up. I want a mobile broadband secure WiFi hotspot.

Before I get too involved in boring you all though, I need to do some catching up on what's out there....just haven't kept up.

Thanks, Phoenix for the PM.
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Thanks, Phoenix for the PM.
Ditto.........
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My iPhone still has unlimited data usage through AT&T. We got it when we first got iPhones 4 years ago and as long as we don't change our plan they can't change that. (Although I got a text from them the other day that said "Your data usage is near 3GB this month. Exceeding 3GB during this or future billing cycles will result in reduced data speeds, though you'll still be able to email & surf the web." That's how they still get to you.) So, I am just wondering how much it costs to enable tethering on my iPhone. AT&T charges for that
I have ATT also with unlimited data also. If you want to tether additional devices to you account you have to add tethering which takes away the grandfathered unlimited data account.

Now ATT is starting a new method called Mobile Share. AT&T Individual Data Plans & Mobile Share Data Plans from AT&T

Same thing you start all over and cannot keep the grandfathered unlimited data account.

My solution as to date has been to use a Verizon mifi device, $50 per month no contract for 5GB data. I get a email telling me when I am 50% usage as a courtesy. I can also check online of usage.

Any way you look at it you cannot add devices without breaking out your checkbook. Sorry. With the Verizon mifi I can add 5 devices all using from the 5GB pool without spending a penny more for the extra devices.

The txt you got from ATT means you still have unlimited just that it is "throttled".
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I have ATT also with unlimited data also. If you want to tether additional devices to you account you have to add tethering which takes away the grandfathered unlimited data account.

Now ATT is starting a new method called Mobile Share. AT&T Individual Data Plans & Mobile Share Data Plans from AT&T

Same thing you start all over and cannot keep the grandfathered unlimited data account.

My solution as to date has been to use a Verizon mifi device, $50 per month no contract for 5GB data. I get a email telling me when I am 50% usage as a courtesy. I can also check online of usage.

Any way you look at it you cannot add devices without breaking out your checkbook. Sorry. With the Verizon mifi I can add 5 devices all using from the 5GB pool without spending a penny more for the extra devices.

The txt you got from ATT means you still have unlimited just that it is "throttled".
What a deal. Thanks for the info. I don't really need to tether because I can just use my phone but if it was reasonable enough it would have been nice.
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There are two huge factors that no one is mentioning here... probably because they're both "duh" factors.

Make sure you compare carriers and their service where you're going to be traveling. Don't look at their maps... they're horsecaca. There are a number of agnostic web sites out there that do this for you. Here's one for an example.

Numero dos is bundling with your cell phone carrier to see if there are any noticeable discounts available.

If you happen to work for a medium to large corporation and have an IT department that has a few corporate agreements with cell phone providers, it may prove useful to drop by and see if they can get you a few loaners to try out.

I happen to be in IT and have AT&T and Verizon sending me their latest hot spots right now for comparison.

I've been tethering off my jailbroken iphone for the last three years successfully, but I want a dedicated one in the trailer.
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One reseller offers substantial discounts on data plans. While several, including myself, have previously posted details, I don't want to appear to be endorsing this company. However, I am currently paying $69.99 per month, with no contract, for a 20Gb plan that utilizes one of the major provider networks. There are also other "unlimited" plans that allow up to 50Gb of use. Send me a PM, if you would like the link; and you can check to see if any of the plans would work for you.

Note: I am not affiliated with this company; and I offer the information only as a satisfied customer, so that others can take advantage of the savings if one of the plans fits their needs.
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I have ATT also with unlimited data also. If you want to tether additional devices to you account you have to add tethering which takes away the grandfathered unlimited data account.

Now ATT is starting a new method called Mobile Share. AT&T Individual Data Plans & Mobile Share Data Plans from AT&T

Same thing you start all over and cannot keep the grandfathered unlimited data account.

My solution as to date has been to use a Verizon mifi device, $50 per month no contract for 5GB data. I get a email telling me when I am 50% usage as a courtesy. I can also check online of usage.

Any way you look at it you cannot add devices without breaking out your checkbook. Sorry. With the Verizon mifi I can add 5 devices all using from the 5GB pool without spending a penny more for the extra devices.

The txt you got from ATT means you still have unlimited just that it is "throttled".
Lynn and I each have an iPhone 4S, and we also have a MIFI Jetpack, all through Verizon. We can connect our laptops, iPhones and printer through the mifi. We have been on the road nearly all of the time since we started this setup the end of April, and have had very good results. The phones each have 2 GBs of data and the mifi 5GBs. We can check the usage from either phone at any time. The only place where service was not very good was at an RV park just north of Long Beach Washington, but that is quite remote. Currently we are at Fort Flagler State Park in Washington and service is great.

Works for us.
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dznf0g said: "Not sure if you were addressing me specifically, but I was not mixing them up. I want a mobile broadband secure WiFi hotspot."

Any mobile broadband device you purchase can be made secure or, if you choose, can be made wide open for WiFi access with a laptop, phone, or tablet. The choice is up to you.

My wife and I are like another responder above -- our cell phone service is through one carrier and our mobile broadband device is through another (actually, we have two -- my wife works via the Internet as a medical transcriptionist so having access while we travel is essential for her).

The prepaid plan I like the best was what we got two years ago from Virgin Mobile (which uses the Sprint network). It is also the one with the least coverage.

We started with a Cradlepoint router from the 3G Store. A USB broadband radio plugs into it (USB 760 by Novatel). We had one each for Verizon and Virgin Mobile. They were equivalent to 3G speeds.

While in Arizona the Verizon USB 760 decided to die. At the Verizon store we couldn't get a replacement so we purchased the 4G-based MiFi Jetpack for use with a prepaid plan. At times on our trip from Arizona to Montana we could get Virgin Mobile's service when we had no Verizon. In some places we had email access via Verizon when there was not a bar in sight with respect to AT&T (more bars in more places - sometimes).

At any rate - compare plans and decide if you want a full-time or prepaid data plan.

I also wish we had gotten a 4g-based USB device to plug into our Cradlepoint because that should have been the most cost-effective route to go. If we would have had time (and weren't on a trip when the device died) that is what I would have gotten.

I like the Cradlepoint much better because it's range is greater than the MiFi, which is limited to about 25 feet. The Cradlepoint also doesn't clip users to five.

I agree with Taylormade, maps are marketing tools and aren't based on reality. At times I've had a signal where the map says I shouldn't but, more often than not, the map says I'm good to go and wasn't.

Keep in mind that your performance will also always vary depending on how many users there are on a particular tower and how active those users are. It's much like the WiFi at an RV campground when, at 10 pm, the web crawls and at 8 AM you flies at warp speed. And, there is also the consideration of what speed you are connecting to the tower. There are lots of variables.

OK. You have enough information to go forth and conquer.
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Not sure if this will help you Skime30 but I'll give you my two cents:

Mobile Broadband refers to internet access gained via a cell tower
Mobile Hotspot broadcasts mobile broadband from one device to others

My husband and I both have iPhone 4S' with AT&T and have been customers of theirs for quite some time. His phone has Unlimited Data usage and mine has 3G. When we travel, we use my iPhone as a 5G Mobile Hotspot . We use my iPhone so that he doesn't lose his Unlimited Data usage plan.

Currently, we pay $30 a month for my 3G usage and when we need to turn my iPhone into a 5G mobile hotspot, we pay an additional $20 (or $10 per 1G of service). If we need more than 5G, we pay $10 for each additional 1G of service. To turn my phone into a 5G mobile hotspot, there is no contract we need to sign and we upgrade only when we need it and discontinue and revert back to 3G when we return from vacation.

For most people 5G is plenty but keep in mind that video streaming is the most data intensive application for any device. If you intend on doing a lot of video streaming, I suggest you get a shared data plan that offers 20G or more and this you could buy through AT&T.

We have Apple TV and have Netflix through our Apple TV and we do video, music and picture streaming through our TV's and we love it! But again, it's very data intensive.

Lastly, one cool feature that AT&T offers is that you can download a free AT&T app onto your iPhone and track your minutes and data usage. This app will give you up to date info on how much data you've used. They will also text message you when you've reached 65%, 90% and 99% of usage so that you can buy more if you need it.

As for the safety and hackers aspect: You MUST make sure that your mobile hotspot is password protected and that your password is STRONG. This will deter 99% of the people...but if you happen to be camping next to some world class hacker, nothing will stop him or her from getting access to your info and that's anywhere you are.

Just my two cents...hope this helps!
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