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Old 02-16-2012, 05:33 PM   #15
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Well, just to ease anyones wounds after they help the fine citizens of Maryland, by passing through one of our numerous and expensive tolls, you can always stop by and pay a visit. I charge no tolls and will at a minimum buy you a cup of coffee. I am moments from the two tunnels going under Baltimore's harbor.
I too am nailed by the tolls, for, I live on the West side of the city and my shop is on the East side. At a minimum, I make one round trip every day. If I need to go to the Rv supply house, yep, another round trip. Forget something at home, forget about it...
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:52 PM   #16
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I have seen a sign that had a picture of the governor that said welcome to Maryland what is in your wallet?
The Governor is not making points but then he does not need too as he is in his last term. He is also eliminating or wants to eliminate the mortgage deduction for homeowners with income over 100K.

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Old 02-16-2012, 06:23 PM   #17
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:40 PM   #18
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I was just thinking of the last time I crossed the Outer Crossing. I think it was $28. I always enjoy the $4 for driving in Delaware for 5 minutes.
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Tolls on the Connecticut Turnpike have been a source of controversy from the Turnpike's opening in 1958 to the removal of tolls in 1985 ....

The CT Turnpike originally opened with a "barrier" toll system, unlike toll roads in neighboring states, which used a ticket system for collecting tolls. More controversy ensued when, in the early 1980s, New York City Subway riders discovered that tokens purchased for use in the CT Turnpike toll booths were of the same size and weight as New York City subway tokens. Since they cost less than one third as much, they began showing up in subway collection boxes regularly. CT authorities initially agreed to change the size of their tokens, but later reneged, and the problem went unsolved until 1985, when CT discontinued the tolls on its Turnpike.

Several accidents prompted CT to eliminate tolls along the Turnpike altogether. The most notorious of these occurred in 1983 when a semi plowed into four cars at the Stratford toll plaza, killing seven people and injuring several others. The investigation following the crash determined that the truck driver fell asleep at the wheel just before the crash took place. Then, less than five months later, a section of the Turnpike's northbound Mianus River Bridge in Greenwich collapsed due to the corrosion of its substructure, killing three motorists crossing it at the time.

After the 1983 crash at the Stratford toll plaza, toll opponents pressured the State to remove tolls from the Turnpike in 1985. While the 1983 Stratford accident was cited as the main reason for abolishing tolls in CT, the underlying reason was the fact that federal legislation at that time forbade states with toll roads from using federal funds for road projects. Because the Mianus River Bridge was rebuilt with federal highway funds following its collapse, CT was required by the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 to remove tolls from the Turnpike once its construction bonds were paid off. Prior to their removal in 1985, tolls on the CT Turnpike generated over $65 million annually. Since their removal, CT politicians have continuously discussed reinstating the tolls, but have balked at bringing them back out of fear of having to repay the $2.6 b-b-billion in federal highway funds that CT received for Turnpike construction projects following the abolition of tolls.

So what's a CT lawmaker gonna do without some righteous toll bank? Implement an income tax, increase the state gasoline tax and sales tax, and impose a new tax on corporate windfall profits, dat's wot.
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:49 AM   #20
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Could you let this novice know about this " western" route, please? We frequently drive from the Wilmington, DE area to Virginia and Florida. I never paid too much attention to the tolls because they really weren't that much for a car. I know routes to avoid the ridiculous toll at the Delaware border but don't know how to avoid the ones further south.

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As you're approaching Baltimore on I-95, you have several options for getting by the city:
1. I-95, with the Fort McHenry tunnel (toll, plus Baltimore doesn't want propane tanks in their tunnels);
2. I-895, with the Harbor Tunnel (also toll, no propane)
3. I-695 around the east side of the city via the Key Bridge (toll, also subject to high wind sometimes)
4. I-695 around the west side of the city (free, but more traffic)

If you're heading south, the cheapest route would be to take I-695 west and then hop on I-95 south again - it's very well marked.
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:25 AM   #21
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Hi,

Could you let this novice know about this " western" route, please? We frequently drive from the Wilmington, DE area to Virginia and Florida. I never paid too much attention to the tolls because they really weren't that much for a car. I know routes to avoid the ridiculous toll at the Delaware border but don't know how to avoid the ones further south.

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Since you a fellow streamer I will let you in on my route south. US 301 all the way down to richmond, Va. Or run us 301/50 tp I95 in DC. and no tolls. Sal.
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As you're approaching Baltimore on I-95, you have several options for getting by the city:
1. I-95, with the Fort McHenry tunnel (toll, plus Baltimore doesn't want propane tanks in their tunnels);
2. I-895, with the Harbor Tunnel (also toll, no propane)
3. I-695 around the east side of the city via the Key Bridge (toll, also subject to high wind sometimes)
4. I-695 around the west side of the city (free, but more traffic)

If you're heading south, the cheapest route would be to take I-695 west and then hop on I-95 south again - it's very well marked.
Thanks! I'm heading to Florida next month--without the Airstream so I'll give it a try.

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Old 02-17-2012, 08:50 AM   #23
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Since you a fellow streamer I will let you in on my route south. US 301 all the way down to richmond, Va. Or run us 301/50 tp I95 in DC. and no tolls. Sal.
Thanks Sal! This avoids the annoying--and expensive--series of tolls from the DE line thru Baltimore. And no tunnel restrictions!

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A few years ago we were traveling west through Houston and I-10 and there were signs that I-10 now had a toll on it and no trailers allowed. This had been done so recently it was not on the map. We had to scramble to find a way west and it took us an extra hour to get through the area. Texas had apparently decided to ask the federal gov't to allow a toll on an interstate where there had never been one and the gov't (a Texan was president when the request came) allowed it. I don't know what the status of the no trailer rule is, but we won't be going anywhere near Houston again.

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I believe the no trailer restriction on I-10 in Houston is really only for the inside lane which is a toll lane.

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I pulled through Huston on I 10 4 weeks ago and yes the restriction is only for the commuter toll lane.

As far as avoiding toll south bound from Jersey using route 301, 50 and I 195, yes you will not pay a toll in Maryland but you will be subject to Washington DC traffic. You will pay the toll to get out of Jeresy. Keep in mind that toll will be at commercial rates if you use E Z Pass. However using the same route in returning you will pay the toll on the bridge at Annapolis.

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I pulled through Huston on I 10 4 weeks ago and yes the restriction is only for the commuter toll lane.

As far as avoiding toll south bound from Jersey using route 301, 50 and I 195, yes you will not pay a toll in Maryland but you will be subject to Washington DC traffic. You will pay the toll to get out of Jeresy. Keep in mind that toll will be at commercial rates if you use E Z Pass. However using the same route in returning you will pay the toll on the bridge at Annapolis.

They will get you going or coming.
If Im going south, I try to run DC on a weekend. If not, I jump off 50 at Bowie and continue down 301. There is a toll southbound, but its worth it to miss the DC traffic. Sal.
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I had e mailed Maryland and asked if they had intended to charge recreational vehicles at the same rates as commercial rigs. This is their reply.

Dear Mr. E

Thank you for your email and for contacting the Maryland Transportation Authority (MDTA). Financed solely by toll revenue, the MDTA is an independent State agency that finances, owns, operates and maintains the State's eight toll facilities.

We appreciate your interest in our facilities. Tolls are based on a vehicle or vehicle-combination's number of axles. There is no distinction between the type of multi-axle vehicle. Current toll rates are available at mdta.maryland.gov.

Thank you again for your email, and please let us know if we may assist you further.
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After 9/11 the Governor of Maryland removed the toll for a short period of time to get people back on the road. I happened to have been traveling at that time and did in fact have a free ride. How if I remember right the following trip, month later, they a doubled the toll from $6.00 to $12.00. They have again doubled the rates. I think that one week of free riding has long since been paid for.
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I believe the no trailer restriction on I-10 in Houston is really only for the inside lane which is a toll lane.

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Thanks Dennis and Howie. When we saw the electric signs a couple of years ago we either misread them—unlikely since there were at least 2 of them—or they were unclear what was ahead. I checked on this on the internet after we got to our destination that day and what I saw there seemed to affirm what we had read. I guess we can go to Houston, but I'm staying away from those tolls in the northeast and midwest.

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