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Old 03-25-2014, 11:50 AM   #15
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If both trucks, the 1500 and the 350, have the same bed length and cab size, there us basically no difference in size. My one ton is the same size that my half ton was. Jim
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:53 AM   #16
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Also my diesel gets better mileage thn the gasser in the half ton in all conditions. Also remember the OP is talking about a single rear wheel truck, not a dually. Jim
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Old 03-25-2014, 02:01 PM   #17
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Im close to pulling the trigger on a 2010 F350 srw 6.4L V8 Diesel. Right now I'm pulling a 25ft 2007 My thought is bigger the better as far as safety concern.
My first airstream was a 1988 34 foot Limited that weighed 8800 lbs dry and loaded was close to 10,000 and I opted for a 2008 F-350 with the 6.4 twin turbo diesel. We full timed for two years hitting 36 states and putting 38,000 miles on the truck and trailer. The truck ran great and handled everything the road threw our way, in the low country and flat land we averaged 11 mpg at 64 miles per hour, in the mountains out west we averaged 9.5, but the ability to handle and safely stop the trailer in the mountain passes and control our speed more than compensated for the lower milage.

Last year we upgraded to an 06 Clasic Limited 34 foot with slide out that weighs 11500 lbs dry and has a listed tounge weight of 1050 we took our first trip with our 2008 F-350 and it didn't take long to realize that it had enough motor but we were at the very top limit of its towing capacity and I felt unsafe in a couple of braking situations . We traded in on a low milage 2011 F-350 6.7 L V8 Diesel four door Super Cab. We are extremely happy with this truck the difference is very striking, for one we are getting 14 mpg towing at 64 miles per hour and around town we get 13 mpg not towing. It handles the heavier Classic like it isn't there and I feel so much safer.

All in all even with higher maintenance costs of the diesel I feel that I made the right choice. Hope this gives you some help with your decision


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Old 03-25-2014, 09:45 PM   #18
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I have no problem with the newer Ford 6.7 diesel if a diesel is what you want. They have been the most dependable and reliable of the 3 diesel species out there and the Ford Torque Shift tranny is bullet proof, even better than the Chevy Allison. BUT, there's that BUT, a gas rig in the same 3/4 ton (F-250) or equivalent in a Chevy or Dodge, will do just as well on the towing end with maybe a slightly lower gas mileage, but at a whole lot lower total cost to own and maintain. The new gas 1/2 tons with turbo V-6 and newer V-8's will tow with a diesel without the problems and maintenance issues of owning a diesel. AND, your wife won't mind gassing it up; she won't have to use a plastic glove to keep the diesel perfume off her hands.
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My oil changes are 59 dollars at the dealer every 5000 miles. What does a change on a gasser cost.? A lot less? Jim
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:18 AM   #20
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My oil changes are 59 dollars at the dealer every 5000 miles. What does a change on a gasser cost.? A lot less? Jim
You can always find an oil change coupon for $19.95 or less and that includes 5 or 6 quarts of oil. My engine takes 7 quarts, so I take an extra quart with me. Sometimes they say they have to charge me to add the extra quart, but I tell them to stop at the 5 or 6 quarts and then I add it myself. Fuel filters for diesels can cost from $50-100 each and sometimes it takes 2 filters, while a gas filter is $10. Diesel fuel is always at least .50 cents more per gallon, not to mention all the additives one needs, and one has to be really careful of bad fuel or it will ruin your injectors and pump ($4-5,000 fix). It is obvious that many,many people like diesel pickups, and that's fine with me, but justification based upon a few miles per gallon better mileage is not a good enough excuse to buy a diesel. You buy a diesel because you want to have one, not because you need one to tow an AS. IMHO, of course.
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Couple of points to throw into the pile.

We had a 2011 F150 Econ Boost - PLEANTY of power for our 30" AS, but payload was not high enough and tires were not load rated enough despite Ford saying it could two 11,500# the way we had it equipped. Neighbor wanted it for his boat, so we made a terrific deal and then we got an F250 6.7 Diesel. Towed it on a trip last summer for almost 7,000 miles in two weeks. Truck was flawless, 6.7 terrific - 6.4 in earlier Fords, not so much. I would stay away. PLUS Diesels are expensive to operate and maintain.

I've talked to Ford, they May, repeat May come out with an big V8 EcoBoost in 2015 in the F250 and F350. This would give power as well as payload and we might switch from Diesel to this IF it happens.

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The newer F150s have a payload of more than 3000lbs - depending on the model of course. Add a crew cab and that number goes down. That's going to increase with the release of the 2015 models with more aluminum parts.

Ample for my personal needs.
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From the F150 Ford Technical page. I only see one that says over 3K payload. Most are much less. Notes are:

1Heavy-Duty Payload Package only. 2TREMOR Package only. 3Max. Trailer Tow Package only. 4SVT RAPTOR only. 5Limited only.
6Requires Heavy-Duty Payload Package and Max. Trailer Tow Package.

As I found with my GMC Sierra 1500 the weights in the brochure were, shall we say, optimistic. My guess is they are all based on the base truck. Start adding the doodads like larger tires, trim packages, etc. you may quickly see, as in my case, 300# disappear rapidly. Not sure if the published weights include a full tank of gas

My truck on the scales, full of gas, nothing in the bed, no tow equipment weighs 5730# against 7200# GVWR. So 1470# available payload. Specs from the brochure for a CrewCab 4x4, 5.3L, say 1957#.

All of those options appear to have taken their toll.

Interesting perspective in this article
http://rvingwithmarkpolk.com/2012/03...s-dont-add-up/

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Im close to pulling the trigger on a 2010 F350 srw 6.4L V8 Diesel. Right now I'm pulling a 25ft 2007 Safari with my 2010 1500 GMC Sierra. Although it's been fine I feel like I'm pushing it a bit with a tow rating at 7200lbs. My trailer dry is around 5400 I believe. Once I load the family of 4 and bikes and other things etc I know I may be risking it a bit. Any reviews welcome if someone pulls a similar rig. My thought is bigger the better as far as safety concern.
I would go with a gas 3/4 ton.
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