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Old 07-31-2016, 01:14 PM   #21
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Set the 2 keys together on a steel block with a square edge and sight across them looking for the flaw. If you see a difference and that difference is positive on the copy you should be able to correct it.

There was a hardware store here in town that put out bad keys for 20 years. I did not get all the keys for work done there but had to try every years of so to see if they had corrected the problem.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:27 PM   #22
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Assuming the new blanks have all been correct and the cuts were also all made correctly, then you almost certainly have a "depth of key insertion" issue. Experiment by slightly varying the depth you insert the new keys; if you can succeed in unlocking with a new key, then you can probably also visually detect the actual difference in old key's "stop" point versus new key's. You can either live with this "hold your mouth just right" technique with your new keys, or, if you want, have a locksmith (not simply a key-maker) rebuild, or replace, the lock. Then, get extra keys made and hide one or two for the time(s) when you lock yourself out; we've all either done it, or we will do it.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:32 PM   #23
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Fords have a combination key pad on the drivers door. We leave a spare set in the glove box that are easily accessible.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:55 PM   #24
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I locked myself out on our maiden voyage at a state park over the 4th of July Holiday. Expensive lesson! Cost me $250 to get a locksmith out on the weekend.
It took him better than an hour to pick the lock. He said that most RV's didn't have as substantial of a door and lock as Airstreams. But of course we already knew this.
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Old 07-31-2016, 06:42 PM   #25
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I saw this link last winter and after reading Robert's post #4, thought..he's a key guy and he's on to something. (Thanks Robert!) I saved the link for future reference. Maybe this solution will help those having trouble getting duplicates to work.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...ml#post1753789

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Old 07-31-2016, 11:41 PM   #26
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I saw this link last winter and after reading Robert's post #4, thought..he's a key guy and he's on to something. (Thanks Robert!) I saved the link for future reference. Maybe this solution will help those having trouble getting duplicates to work.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...ml#post1753789

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Hi, Thank You for posting this link; Saved me some typing. This took me some time trying to figure out why a perfect looking key wouldn't work.
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:27 AM   #27
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You can order blanks from the key maker but don't take them to a locksmith. I tried that in Florida this winter and he had a big sign "will not cut keys from customers' blanks". He refused to do so, found his own keys and cut them. One worked, the other didn't. He was the only locksmith with a store front, the rest worked out of a car or pickup.

I took my blanks to a True Value or Ace hardware, forget which. They don't guarantee a fit but will cut them. I had them make 2 sets, both worked perfectly.

https://airstreamsupply.com/Key-Blanks
http://www.trimarklocks.com/keys.htm
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:30 AM   #28
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Good ideas all, and thanks everyone. When we get back to civilization from this current camping trip (after this Friday) I'll follow up on these suggestions and let you know which one(s) bears fruit!
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:58 AM   #29
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We have a dead bolt separate from the knob lock . I put a screw in the assy to prevent the lock assy from working. We only use the dead bolt. This came about from the door self locking on our 86 32 we used to have. Had a twist knob inside and key outside.
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They have the blanks and when they cut the keys they look right on - but when I put them in the lock they just won't turn.
I believe you have the Trimark lock on your door. The Trimark key blanks are unusual, and many less knowledgeable locksmiths will use one that is "close" resulting in the problem you describe.

Better locksmiths will have the correct blank, or you can get blanks from an Airstream dealer. Out-of-doors mart has them and will ship them to you. They are not expensive.
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Old 08-01-2016, 11:53 AM   #31
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It's been a few years, but I was able to order cut keys on Ebay. i.e. not key blanks, but keys cut from the code on my original set. Might be worth contacting this fella with your key codes to see if he's still in that business:

http://www.ebay.com/usr/swanyriver1
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It's been a few years, but I was able to order cut keys on Ebay. i.e. not key blanks, but keys cut from the code on my original set. Might be worth contacting this fella with your key codes to see if he's still in that business:

http://www.ebay.com/usr/swanyriver1
Wow! Giving some random guy on the internet your key code AND your address. Please find a local locksmith.
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I have ordered eBay keys and never lost a minutes sleep about the locksmith coming to rip me off.
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:08 PM   #34
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So when the door locks accidentally, is it the deadbolt or the upper door lock?

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Old 08-01-2016, 10:23 PM   #35
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All of this advice sounds good, but I have only one key for the door of our 2004 Safari and although I've gone to hardware stores, locksmiths, online, etc. nobody can make a duplicate that works. Any ideas?
I was able to pick up blanks for everything for my 04 Safari from the Airstream dealer in Seattle and hand them cut at a local locksmith....... right after I managed to lock myself out
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Wow! Giving some random guy on the internet your key code AND your address. Please find a local locksmith.
Are you suggesting that he spent 17 years on ebay just waiting to lure in a sucker like me, so now he can drive down from Minnesota any time to steal my towels and dishes?!
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:38 PM   #37
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So when the door locks accidentally, is it the deadbolt or the upper door lock?

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I've read back thru this and other locked out themed threads, and haven't seen one lock or the other ID'd. Can anyone answer this?

I presume it isn't possible for both to accidentally lock?

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In my case, it was not the deadbolt.
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In my case, it was not the deadbolt.
The time I did it, it was not the dead bolt either.

Suspect I either accidentally slide the locking slide when exiting.... or my service dog who was in the trailer at the time decided to try and open it to see what I was doing outside by pawing the door lever (Which is how he has been trained to open doors with levers) and in doing so slid his paw over the sliding lock. The later is possible but not likely as he has never attempted to open a door without being asked to do so before or since.
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Great thanks SteveSueMac & NorthernGirl. It was hard to visualize how a DB could slide over on it's own but easy to see how the latch slide could.

Seems I read in the forums (somewhere) that someone when in camp, had cut a small section of foam (such as from some pipe insulation or maybe ensolite pad) and inserted it into the "slide opening" of the latch on the inside, then used the DB as security when they left. He would then remove it for the road and double lock with keys as usual.

I got the kit from AS dealer on So Cal but haven't installed it as looking in thru the slot and reading the instruction schematic, it appears our '14 already has the additional felt.

Meantime, I think I'll make arrangements with Trimark for a few more sets.

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