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Old 08-31-2014, 01:42 PM   #15
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Thanks Tom. I have to go that way in about a week. I was going to ask about a alternative.
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Old 08-31-2014, 01:54 PM   #16
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Killer. I have driven across Indiana, the southern part, on I-64 and it wasn't bad at all. That was 2010, pretty new pavement. Made good time across there.
I see that you all in Indiana are building that brand new interstate I-69 between Indianapolis and Evansville. It looks very smooth in the 'google-car', the parts completed. Spending top dollar on it.

The contract snow-plows here in Virginia like to tear up the pavement.
Have to keep buying those Load range ' E' tires.

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Old 08-31-2014, 02:02 PM   #17
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Killer. I have driven across Indiana, the southern part, on I-64 and it wasn't bad at all. That was 2010, pretty new pavement. Made good time across there.
I see that you all in Indiana are building that brand new interstate I-69 between Indianapolis and Evansville. It looks very smooth in the 'google-car', the parts completed. Spending top dollar on it.

The contract snow-plows here in Virginia like to tear up the pavement.
Have to keep buying those Load range ' E' tires.

have a good one !
Yes, the I-69 extension is another Mitch Daniels debacle that the taxpayers have had to suffer through. His administration took federal tax dollars to line the pockets of the politically connected. Refused to tell the taxpayers how much they spent on purchasing right-of-way to hide their misdeeds (violation of federal law). This money should have been spent to maintain existing roadways... Sorry to vent but it's extremely irritating to watch the criminal wrongdoing go unpunished while we who use and pay for the roads have our vehicles destroyed at their expense.
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Old 08-31-2014, 04:13 PM   #18
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Killer. I have driven across Indiana, the southern part, on I-64 and it wasn't bad at all. That was 2010, pretty new pavement. Made good time across there.
I came I-57 to I-64 this past summer and had no problems pulling my boat. The road was in very good shape. Last summer I took I-64 from St. Louis (no trailer) and it was in very good condition from there also.
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Old 08-31-2014, 04:21 PM   #19
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I guess I'm so used to Indiana roads, that I didn't know they're any worse than anybody else's roads! I'm an expert pot-hole avoider All I know is that every summer, the expressways are always under construction. Maybe they're faking it!
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Old 08-31-2014, 04:34 PM   #20
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And here I thought we the first thread in the history of this forum where everyone agrees. Oh, well back to normal.
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:37 PM   #21
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When I started this thread I thought someone might actually provide a counterpoint. But, having gone coast-to-coast (haven't done this since 2003), it became pretty clear that there has been a LOT of deferred maintenance on our interstate system....many, many bridges are being redone. The other thing that was apparent was the sheer volume of trucks on our highways! On the plus side, it send a signal of plenty of commerce -- and I know they pay a lot of road tax as well. I can't imagine those folks who are pulling triple bottoms. I find 28' enough of a challenge.
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Old 08-31-2014, 08:18 PM   #22
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Stop hating on all Indiana roads. Just finished a road trip from KS-MO-TX-FL-GA-OH-IN-KS a total of 4,000+ miles. Indiana roads were just fine and comparable with all roads except texas and florida, the two with the best roads on the trip. As for the toll road in the North end of Indiana, a quick chat with any local would have steered anyone clear. The worst roads by far were Kentucky on my trip, but even then it was just the old style concrete interstates with the constant ba-doom-ba-doom instead of the smooth interstates we have all been babied with. Overall Indiana has great interstates and highways, but the worst toll road in the US. But if you don't like the toll road you don't have to ride on it.
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Wow you guys are harsh. I have been on some pretty crappy roads but never wrote off the entire state because of it. Here in Southern Indiana we have some pretty decent roads. I have never driven on the toll road before so I can't comment on that particular road.
There is a lot more trucks on the roads because of all the imported goods. They pay a lot of road tax but sure do punish the roads.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:21 AM   #24
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All the money being spent on bridges currently is because of the I35W bridge debacle a few years ago. Thirteen deaths (we were extremely lucky there weren't a lot more) woke people up to the danger.
And I'm not dissing the entire state of Indiana, just the toll roads.

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Wow you guys are harsh. I have been on some pretty crappy roads but never wrote off the entire state because of it. Here in Southern Indiana we have some pretty decent roads. I have never driven on the toll road before so I can't comment on that particular road.
There is a lot more trucks on the roads because of all the imported goods. They pay a lot of road tax but sure do punish the roads.
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There are more trucks on the road not because of imported goods but One reason railroads no longer have lcs and full loads as I have seen many factories go from rr serv. to trucks because of poor service and long shipping times plus many manf. now use just in time deliv. for manuf. also less service and tracks to serv. cities, all they want is long haul plus tofc is no longer. Trucks are point to point for manf. goods etc. plus much more being produced today. I'm not touting trucks but it's fact of life, also I'm a retired conductor from railroad w/36 yrs. of serv so I have seen the transition from trains to trucks, yes there are a lot of imported goods, but not the cause of more trucks as stated but the way that transportation has evolved. Yes trucks do hurt older roads but new way of building new or rebuilding older roads eliminates this prob. if not built by firms w/kick backs or built substandard.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:02 AM   #26
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I didn't write these states off due to the roads, I have already spent enough time up there to know I wouldn't want to go back.
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Stop hating on all Indiana roads. Just finished a road trip from KS-MO-TX-FL-GA-OH-IN-KS a total of 4,000+ miles. Indiana roads were just fine and comparable with all roads except texas and florida, the two with the best roads on the trip. As for the toll road in the North end of Indiana, a quick chat with any local would have steered anyone clear. The worst roads by far were Kentucky on my trip, but even then it was just the old style concrete interstates with the constant ba-doom-ba-doom instead of the smooth interstates we have all been babied with. Overall Indiana has great interstates and highways, but the worst toll road in the US. But if you don't like the toll road you don't have to ride on it.
Just drove from Kentucky to mid-state of Michigan and back last week, so I have plenty of experience driving on Indiana roadways. Having lived for over 40 years in the state of Indian I can speak of first hand knowledge of their roads. I always take secondary roads, which are somewhat better that their interstates, when traveling to Northern Indiana to visit family/friends. Interstate 69 from Scottsburg, just North of Louisville, to pretty much the South side of Indianapolis is very bad. They have patched the road for about the last 5 to 10 years and are just now, finally, going to perform a major overhaul. If I get on any interstate in Indiana, I stay in the left lane as much as possible to avoid damaging my AS.
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Just drove from Kentucky to mid-state of Michigan and back last week, so I have plenty of experience driving on Indiana roadways. Having lived for over 40 years in the state of Indian I can speak of first hand knowledge of their roads. I always take secondary roads, which are somewhat better that their interstates, when traveling to Northern Indiana to visit family/friends. Interstate 69 from Scottsburg, just North of Louisville, to pretty much the South side of Indianapolis is very bad. They have patched the road for about the last 5 to 10 years and are just now, finally, going to perform a major overhaul. If I get on any interstate in Indiana, I stay in the left lane as much as possible to avoid damaging my AS.
Fair enough, I am not familiar with that stretch of I-69, as I only use it to go to From Indianapolis to Fort Wayne. Thanks for the tip though, I will do the same if ever on that route.

Lived in Indiana for 10 years as well, and had no issues from Cincinnati to Indianapolis, Indy to Fort Wayne, Indy to Bloomington, Indy to Dayton, OH, Indy to Springfield, IL, and Indy to Chicago. I did make the mistake of taking the toll road once.... I got off of it after the first 10 miles because of the condition. It was just prior to selling it to the foreign investors, and IIRC they were Middle Eastern.
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