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Old 12-18-2014, 11:59 AM   #15
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It is not safe to pull a trailer on snow or ice even on flat ground. The skiers in their little 4wds are not going to allow for the fact that you got the stopping distance of an aircraft carrier on snow and ice. And the WD hitch and sway controls on some hitches can work against you in slick conditions. I like the idea of leaving the trailer somewhere at lower elevations and doing the ski resort part of the trip without it. I guess I would pull it into the mountains if I was not on a tightly fixed schedule and I had time to wait until the roads cleared if it snowed but on a fixed time frame I would keep the trailer well out of the snow areas. A few hundred dollars extra for a motel is a whole lot cheaper than a tow job and a dent or worse.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:36 PM   #16
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I walked away from a rollover with my second Airstream - clear weather in summer. Everything happened in a fraction of a second and I'm never going to be absolutely sure whether it was entirely my error, entirely something outside like a sudden high speed crosswind, or some flaw in the road, the tow vehicle, the hitch or the Airstream - or some from each category.

BAD stuff happens, even to people like me who are only semi-evil.

I am a better, more cautious driver. I stay focused or get the hell off the road until I can put myself into "fully focused" mode. I'm over it, but my new reality is that walking away puts me in debt - helping you avoid a wreck helps me pay that debt... so please help!

Oh, and if you can't afford a nice hotel - that happy incident (I did walk away) did cause me to buy a new truck and a very gently used Airstream. (I full time and couldn't wait six months.) You'd puke if you knew how much "depreciation" suddenly turned in REAL MONEY. And I also went to the E/R to get checked out - my insurance covered everything but $1300.

Now doesn't even a pricy hotel sound cheap?

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Old 12-18-2014, 02:03 PM   #17
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HowieE has a point. The other clueless drivers are more of a hazard than the actual hazards. Folks here in Hunstville, AL don't understand you can't go 80MPH 3 feet off someone's bumper when there is ice on the road. I would be patient and wait for news on how the roads are that you will be traveling on. Also road salt is not something you want on the bottom of your trailer.

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Old 12-18-2014, 09:28 PM   #18
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Perry it's nice to hear someone else's is from Huntsville Alabama besides me.


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Old 12-18-2014, 09:31 PM   #19
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Old 12-19-2014, 01:22 AM   #21
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HowieE has a point. The other clueless drivers are more of a hazard than the actual hazards. Folks here in Hunstville, AL don't understand you can't go 80MPH 3 feet off someone's bumper when there is ice on the road. I would be patient and wait for news on how the roads are that you will be traveling on. Also road salt is not something you want on the bottom of your trailer.

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That other Perry is right. You can't drive the other fool's vehicle behind you. Day after Superbowl this year I had stopped all nice and safe and long distance to the truck in front of me at one of those Big, red lights all over, 20 some vehicle pile up on slicked up black ice; didn't even look slick. then BAMMM!!!!! I was pushed into the truck infront of me, they carted me off duck taped to the backboard for observation for a few hours, my old Mountaineer got replaced with a newer Explorer. The officer said the PT Cruiser hit me at about 50 or more. The car tow fellow said they hauled 27 vehicles off that wreck that day. I still won't drive the new I-580 in any kind of near freezing weather. Grooved road makes the road look a lot less slick than the road actually is. Add to the risk on bad roads the fools out behind you.
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Old 12-19-2014, 05:51 AM   #22
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I am going to go against the flow and say, you can do whatever you want. It's your airstream, your vehicle, and your family. No matter what happens it is your decision. However you need to ask yourself, can you live with it, and the repercussions.
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I am going to go against the flow and say, you can do whatever you want. It's your airstream, your vehicle, and your family.
You're not really going against the flow, so much as you're advising the OP not to take advice that was specifically asked for.

But that's okay. Simple fact, no one is ever obligated to take advice given by fellow AirForums members. Not even advice one asked for in the first place. In the end, no matter how much advice is asked for or offered, the final decision and responsibility still belongs to the person behind the wheel.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:50 AM   #24
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The dynamics of a trailer-tow vehicle combination is much more unstable on ice than just the tow vehicle. I can drive in the snow and short patches of ice. I don't know what would happen if that trailer decides to wander when you hit some ice. It could jack knife or just get sideways. Now when you hit pavement again what do you think will happen? Going uphill is better than going down hill that is until you loose traction and start sliding down hill. Using manual trailer braking to pull the whole mess straight is probably your only option in a skid. I don't see good things happening at all when sliding down a hill backwards pulling a trailer.

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Old 12-19-2014, 08:21 AM   #25
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You're not really going against the flow, so much as you're advising the OP not to take advice that was specifically asked for.
Not to quibble on details, but that is not at all what I said. Protagonist, we have a misunderstanding.

To Clarify: Framing the perspective of not telling someone who asked for advice what to do, but to encourage them to think introspectively on the risk versus reward, while not knowing the OP driving history/capabilities.

Completely agree with your last paragraph in the above quoted post.
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:36 AM   #26
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Not my choice for the first outing pulling an AS on snow or ice ....we park our TV / AS up here when the roads get dicey!
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Old 12-20-2014, 12:10 AM   #27
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The dynamics of a trailer-tow vehicle combination is much more unstable on ice than just the tow vehicle. I can drive in the snow and short patches of ice. I don't know what would happen if that trailer decides to wander when you hit some ice. It could jack knife or just get sideways. Now when you hit pavement again what do you think will happen? Going uphill is better than going down hill that is until you loose traction and start sliding down hill. Using manual trailer braking to pull the whole mess straight is probably your only option in a skid. I don't see good things happening at all when sliding down a hill backwards pulling a trailer.

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Hi, from my experiences of towing on snow and ice, I feel that the trailer and tow vehicle together handles better. Instead of my 17' Lincoln, I have a 44' long vehicle. Bow waves from big rigs and gusts of wind blow my Lincoln farther than when I have my Safari attached.
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Old 12-20-2014, 09:07 AM   #28
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Hi, from my experiences of towing on snow and ice, I feel that the trailer and tow vehicle together handles better. Instead of my 17' Lincoln, I have a 44' long vehicle. Bow waves from big rigs and gusts of wind blow my Lincoln farther than when I have my Safari attached.
Did you post this as a joke or did I miss something in your intent?
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