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Old 12-11-2014, 03:25 PM   #15

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Originally Posted by tyggeln View Post
......... but with weight distributing hitches (operative word) some of the weight has been moved to the TV
Yes...and some has been moved back to the AS's axles.

The CAT ticket I posted shows the weight on the AS's axles with WD set, the only weight NOT on the axles is the unsprung weight, (axles, tires & wheels).

So...subtract unsprung, maybe what?, say 340lbs and I'm right back at 7300lbs along with my more than inadequate 676lbs of CCC.


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Old 12-12-2014, 10:55 AM   #16
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Protagonist - Thanks, yeah I can see how that would work too. Either way you need to separate the TV and TT. In your method, you can leave the TT at home, which is a good choice, especially if you are not sure about the TT weight vs GVWR.

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Old 12-12-2014, 11:41 AM   #17
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Personally, id like to carry about 10-15lbs less.
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:27 AM   #18
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Ok so worst case scenario all tanks being full that would represent 968 lbs leaving me with 808 lbs. That should be more than enough providing I leave my collection of vintage bowling balls at home
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:45 AM   #19
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Weight is a huge issue that people, especially my wife don't seem to understand. Practically fully stripped out with cabinets gone and a front couch out, my 310TD moho with a full tank of diesel and me in it, tipped the scales at 12,800 lbs. I have a 14,500 GVW so going full nuts with ceramic floors, granite counter tops and all the bells and whistles was not in the cards.
I was anal about weight, to the point of building new cabinets with no backs, no floors, just a solid pine face frame, pine doors and drawer fronts, gables just deep enough to mount slides onto. I used Coosa board for the new subfloor as it weighs 45% less than the equivalent plywood.
If I get the Olympia Bigfoot levelling system this spring it's going to add even more weight.
Now if I could only get my wife to pack four place settings instead of eight, all the food and condiments in the house and just six towels instead of twelve I may have a chance to come in under GVW.

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Old 12-14-2014, 09:33 AM   #20
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Wow! 5600+ pounds for an empty 25'er. That is less than 600# from the GVWR of my 26' Argosy.
The weight of my longer trailer @ 5,500 ready to travel is less than the weight of a new 25'er.
How did the newer A$ gain so much weight?
Perhaps the need to look at a weight watcher program.

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Old 12-14-2014, 09:59 AM   #21
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Newer trailers probably gained weight by being wider, having a heavier frame, and maybe being longer for the same nominal length. The also have some nice but heavy cabinet work and probably heavier appliances.

I was actually surprised at how light compared to GVW my 25' trailer is when loaded to go. Hitched and on the road loaded we have 5600 lbs on the trailer axles and 800 lbs added to the truck for a total of 6300 against a GVW of 6800 lbs. I do have the generator, the spare tire, the fishing gear, and the heavy tools in the truck instead of the trailer. If we are headed north we carry the box of the heavy boots and parkas in the truck until we need them.
Most of the weight added is fresh water full and a little water in the holding tanks, 2 full propane tanks, canned goods in the pantry slide out, and canned and bottled drinks under the sofa. I rebuilt the bottom of the drawer there to handle heavy loads. We seem to carry fewer clothes and less cooking gear than some Airstreamers.
I guess running with both holding tanks full would put us near or over the limit but it is rare that we do that and if we do it is for short distances.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:04 PM   #22
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No idea! We just bring what we want in the truck and trailer

It all works out ok.

Obviously other folks get down to the real nitty gritty...
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Old 12-19-2014, 04:57 AM   #23
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FYI, we're on the road loaded for a five week trip. We have a 2015 F-250 diesel and pulling a 2012 FC 30 ft. The truck has a shell and a pullout bed, combined these weigh about 350 lbs. We weighed a couple days ago with the following results; gross weight - 16780 lbs, front axle - 4640 lbs, rear axle - 5080 lbs, trailer axle - 7060 lbs.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:50 AM   #24
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My axles are rated and labeled by AS as 5000lb Dexter Axles.

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I called Dexter with the label info, just to get common maintenance part numbers, as there is no 5000# axle listed on their website. I was told that there is no such thing as a 5000# axle and mine were 6000# axles.

NOW!!!! Just like your TV, that does not mean I can just load the cart, as I please, up to 12,000#s on the axles. There may, and probably are, other "system" reasons for AS to rate the max axle loads to 10,000#s. And in fact when you consider TW, and AS GVW, you can't. (or shouldn't, depending on your perspective).

All this, in the last paragraph, is reflected on the sticker on my closet door.

It is nice to know I am "over-axled", but has little bearing on my load capacity. All that said, at last weigh, I was at about 7600# on the axles and 850# on the tongue, for a total of 8450# without water, fully loaded for camping. GVWR is 10,000#s.

I need to do a reweigh next spring, to see how much weight I've gained since last weigh, in 2011. They are sneaky in gaining weight.


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