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08-20-2015, 12:41 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 30' Classic
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Honda EU2000i Generator at Sams Club
Found this this morning at my local Sams Club. I'm really tempted to buy one of these.
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08-20-2015, 12:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
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Best price I have seen recently. Is that plus sales tax?
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08-20-2015, 01:26 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 30' Classic
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 96
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+tax unless you have a business account.
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08-20-2015, 01:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
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After paying a typical 7.5% sales tax its about a $34 savings over online ordering at $999 with free shipping and no sales tax.
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08-20-2015, 01:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firstwave
+tax unless you have a business account.
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WHOA THERE!
Tax exempt IF the items you buy are "For Resale". If you're using them yourself, you should pay taxes. And YES you CAN get away with saying "everything is for resale" for years.
The problem is that if you own a business, your STATE will do an audit on your business from time to time. They DO check sales tax you paid religiously - if you buy over the internet and aren't charged your state's sales tax, (and you fail to notice that tax wasn't charged so you don't mail a check to the state) they will collect it - and consider that you made an honest mistake by overlooking it.
If you simply evade paying sales tax by declaring that it's for sale, that does not amuse the person doing the audit. Our company has been audited 4 or 5 times in the last 15 years, and our receipts always show a mix of taxed and non-taxed goods. That alone gives the auditor the idea that we are at least trying to file an honest return (taxes are so confusing we worry whether we're doing it right even with a CPA advising us.)
Our typical taxable items are sliced spiral hams, cakes, etc., which are used for operator parties - and obviously we don't "sell" the toilet paper we buy.
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08-20-2015, 01:41 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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If I were to only have one of these to use with my Airstream I would by the Companion version that has the 30 amp receptacle.I have both
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08-20-2015, 02:12 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2010
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The Honda EU2000i are about the best and quietest generators you can get for the size and capacity. Very clean power, suitable for running computers, as well. The 2000 is not at all likely to be enough to start (nor run, perhaps) your Airstream AC, which brings up the subject of the i2000 Companion generator, which is designed to work on its own OR paired with the primary i2000. Combined, the two of them will run one AC unit.
If you go with a single, higher capacity generator, you may be very discouraged by difficulty of handling the size and weight of a single higher capacity unit, that's why so many people go with two smaller ones... easier to manage and one can be a back-up unit to the other.
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08-20-2015, 02:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
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Are two EU2000s running together in companion mode noisier than a Honda Handi 3000w generator?
Kelvin
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08-20-2015, 02:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
Scottsdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
Are two EU2000s running together in companion mode noisier than a Honda Handi 3000w generator?
Kelvin
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I would think so... never compared them, though. Hopefully someone who has compared will chime in.
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08-20-2015, 02:53 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 30' Classic
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
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Posts: 96
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I don't think I would boondock anywhere that I needed air conditioner. I would like to have one to power the coffee maker, toaster and recharge the batteries.
I would also prefer the one with the 30amp outlet but not sure it is worth and extra $200.
Wonder if Sams is a authorized Honda dealer.
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08-20-2015, 03:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
Scottsdale
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firstwave... I agree, if I'm going to boondock, I would do so where and when the climate is relatively pleasant - not too hot, nor too cold, not requiring AC.
A single EU2000i will easily keep your batteries charged and provide enough juice to run your coffee maker and toaster. I think having one of these generators along for the ride, anytime you might boondock, is a very wise move.
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08-20-2015, 03:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
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Two of them running together are very quiet and do a great job with AC.If you shop online you will find them for about the same with no sales tax.
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08-20-2015, 03:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Debating mentally ...Honda vs Yahama. Both have great reputations, both 2000's can be parelled. Yesterday a online add advertised the Yahama for $869, very tempting. I initially was all Honda but the Yahama has two features I really like, larger fuel tank & a fuel shut off so you can cut the fuel supply while the genarator is still running emptying the carburetor thus preventing stale fuel from gumming it up.
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Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
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08-20-2015, 03:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 30' Classic
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 96
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Anybody know about how long one of these would run (if converted) on 20# of propane?
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08-20-2015, 04:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Spokane
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Joe,
They are both very good. I would probably go with the one that has the best price if all other things were equal. The extras that you like on the Yamaha would tip the scale. I bought my Honda online. Got the best price, paid no sales tax and had it delivered to my door at no extra cost.
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08-20-2015, 04:21 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
LaMarque
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 133
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I have two of the Hondas. Had them about 2 years. No issues and both have fuel shutoff valves.
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08-20-2015, 04:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Fair Oaks
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I've boondocked places where it is hot enough that air conditioning feels good midday (mid 90's) and cool enough that I wear a light jacket at night (low 50's). Fairly common in parts of California and the west. A pair of 2000 kw generators is perfect for those conditions: you run the pair for 2-4 hours midday for your midday nap, and you're ready to go as the temps become pleasant again late afternoon. I wouldn't boondock where the temps are consistently in the 100's, because the AC isn't up to it anyway (unless you like it a lot warmer than I do). The pigtail that connects the two gens has a 30 amp outlet.
In the early evening, I just run one of the gens to run the microwave, etc, and no gens later in the evening when all I want to run is the TV.
If I didn't already have 2 good gens, I'd jump on the deal you noted in a second.
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08-20-2015, 04:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrjkq
Debating mentally ...Honda vs Yahama. Both have great reputations, both 2000's can be parelled. Yesterday a online add advertised the Yahama for $869, very tempting. I initially was all Honda but the Yahama has two features I really like, larger fuel tank & a fuel shut off so you can cut the fuel supply while the genarator is still running emptying the carburetor thus preventing stale fuel from gumming it up.
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Never any problems with carbs but as with everything that I own that burns gas and sits I always add Seafoam fuel additive.It keeps the fuel fresh and the algae growth at bay.
You cant go wrong with Yamaha or Honda.These little Gens sip very little fuel.
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08-20-2015, 04:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Genoa
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
Are two EU2000s running together in companion mode noisier than a Honda Handi 3000w generator?
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2 EU2000s running together isn't that much louder than one. Sounds a little louder, but Running in the bed of my truck on a rubber mudflap, at about 5' away, I found roughly about 72db with one EU2000, goes to about 74db with both EU2000 running. With out the mudflap under the generators, they set up a heck of a drum reverbing in the steel Omaha tool bed of the truck.
Don't know what the 3000w generator db numbers is.
If you're looking at a cheaper Yamaha unit, check it's instant starting power; some won't start an air conditioner even though the rating says it should. Saw that ruin someone's vacation a few years ago, the cheaper brand wouldn't fire their air-conditioner on a hot day.
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08-20-2015, 06:15 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 25' FB International
Flagstaff
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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I Have 2 Honda 2000i's, one is a companion. Have never used both in tandem because we tend to not go where A/C is needed. I bought them together about the same time as the trailer after reading stuff online about needing 2 to run the A/C. Soon learned that one was enough for our idea of the Air Stream lifestyle. If you can get by without needing the ac or the heat pump one 2000 will serve you well. Suggest starting with the Companion. I keep them both "just in case" we ever find ourselves in a hot climate without a shore line.
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