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08-20-2015, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aftermath
Joe,
They are both very good. I would probably go with the one that has the best price if all other things were equal. The extras that you like on the Yamaha would tip the scale. I bought my Honda online. Got the best price, paid no sales tax and had it delivered to my door at no extra cost.
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I believe the decision in made, Yamaha. I agree that online, no tax free shipping is a no brainer. Their is a 30 Amp plug adapter out there for around $10 that makes the Airstream cord adaptable.
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Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
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2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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08-20-2015, 06:34 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1971 31' Sovereign
1973 29' Ambassador
1978 31' Sovereign
Palm Desert
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 369
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I have an eu2000i and it does run my new Atwood AC fine. That's why I bought the Atwood because I didn't want to buy another generator.
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08-21-2015, 07:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Craig, what model Atwood and size?
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08-21-2015, 07:42 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Anybody tried the WEN? Similar performance for a lot less $?
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08-21-2015, 07:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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I do like the idea of converting a generator to run on LP. Much more convenient fuel to transport and use, although higher in cost...
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08-21-2015, 07:54 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1971 31' Sovereign
1973 29' Ambassador
1978 31' Sovereign
Palm Desert
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 369
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Chief- Atwood RV Air Conditioners
It's 13,5K but they call it a 16,000 equivalent.
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08-21-2015, 07:54 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
sequim
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 301
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i went into a local dealer and told them about the price i could get online. the guy called the owner and they matched the price for me. i prefer to shop locally when i can so this worked out great for all of us. give it a try, it never hurts to ask. i bought the Yamaha instead of the Honda, both great units with some differences worth noting.
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08-21-2015, 07:55 AM
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one of those
2011 27 FB International
'03 F250 PSD
, Airstream summers, Catalac winters
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,091
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The Honda has a little screw valve on the carb bowl, to drain it for storage. there's a clear plastic tube to let the small amount of gasoline drain. Is there another fuel valve on it somewhere?
I don't do Yamaha anymore. Period.
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08-21-2015, 11:19 AM
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54 Flying Cloud
1967 20' Globetrotter
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Grand Rapids
, Minnesota
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 173
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrjkq
Debating mentally ...Honda vs Yahama. Both have great reputations, both 2000's can be parelled. Yesterday a online add advertised the Yahama for $869, very tempting. I initially was all Honda but the Yahama has two features I really like, larger fuel tank & a fuel shut off so you can cut the fuel supply while the genarator is still running emptying the carburetor thus preventing stale fuel from gumming it up.
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Something you might want to consider is the Yamaha 2400 unit for around 1300.00, 200 more if you want tri-fuel with additional options installed by US Carburation. It does weigh around 75 lbs compared to the Honda at 50 lbs.
I've been reading a lot about these and the Yamaha 2400 has high output surge to run a 1350 BTU AC unit. Hoping not to need AC, but I do want to travel into desert climates at times.
some features I like about the Yamaha:
1. typical outside-accessible rope, easier to repair.
2.. 2500w rated, 2800 surge (efg2800 series), can start AC unit
3.. separate fuel shutoff. possible to turn it off and let the carb run dry
4. 3 gal tank with gauge, Honda has no fuel guage.
I'm planning on the 1557.74 with free shipping: Yamaha Propane and Natural Gas Generators | Yamaha Generator
1. tachometer
2. tri-fuel: natural gas, gasoline, propane
3. engine regulator with tach allows elevation fine tuning, which seems to be an issue for many generators.
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08-21-2015, 12:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vero Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 695
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For Firstwave: I have two 2000s ( one regular and one companion) both converted to LP right out of the box. Never had gas in either. I have not run a test for fuel burn rate, but I'm about to set up for a trip. I always run both generators before leaving. If nobody else answers your question I'll weigh a 20 lb LP tank, run a generator on full speed for an timed hour and reweigh to share a measured answer with you and anyone else intested.
For all: Here in Florida we have a term for people who show up without enough generator capacity to run their AC: "Yankee". We travel without a firm plan,and use the generators for AC fairly often especially in the afternoon and evening (rarely all night) if we land in a place without power (including places in Kansas and Wyoming this summer where it was over 90 both places at dinner time).
For what it's worth, the two EU2000s run the AC without complaint (our EB 25 has a single Dometic 15,000 BTU AC/heat pump). They will NOT run the AC and the microwave simultaneously (we have the factory option Sharp micro/convection). Nor will a single 2000 run the microwave with any other load on the system.
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08-21-2015, 12:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 723
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Great post, GammaDog. Thank you.
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08-21-2015, 01:19 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
Society Hill
, South Carolina
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 12
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That is a good price!
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08-21-2015, 01:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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How much is the companion?
That price is $100-200 less than usual.
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08-21-2015, 02:00 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB International
Avila Beach
, California
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 63
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I would be very careful about buying this model, ask for one still in the box, this one doesn't sit level and the gas likely will run out...
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08-21-2015, 02:07 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1994 30' Excella
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 90
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Have had my two Hondas for years... quiet, efficient, long lasting... I do occasionally boondock where I need the AC. You can get a special fuel tank to feed both of them simultaneously if need be. I paid about $950 each for mine on sale many many years ago... so that is a great price... I'm 65... so I do not want to be horsing around a larger generator in and out of the truck... this set up works for me...
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94 30" Excella
99 GMC 3/4 Ton 6.0L
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08-21-2015, 03:42 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
2014 30' Classic
Princeton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 302
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I have 2 (one companion) and love them. I typed in Honda Generator on Google and found a site with very good prices. I bought them 2 years ago and paid like $700. they came well packed and have ran great.
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08-21-2015, 04:09 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Rockingham
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 353
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If considering one of these with desire to run AC, talk with Lew Farber here. In touch with him recently as I want him to design and install an AM a Solar system in our AS when we get it, rather than order AS option for solar. I'm 99% sure he said a Honda 2000 will run AC in a certain arrangement with a solar power kit.
Dan
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08-21-2015, 04:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 31' Sovereign
Northeastern
, Kentucky
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 627
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firstwave
I don't think I would boondock anywhere that I needed air conditioner. I would like to have one to power the coffee maker, toaster and recharge the batteries.
I would also prefer the one with the 30amp outlet but not sure it is worth and extra $200.
Wonder if Sams is a authorized Honda dealer.
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Is there a benefit to the 30amp receptacle over using an adapter?
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08-21-2015, 06:55 PM
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Richard
2006 30' Classic S/O
Merced
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 79
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Honda has a track record. I have had 4 Honda 2000i over the years. Never sent one in for repair. Even bought one of them on Craigslist and it looked like it had a hard life. Worked like it was new. Buy it before they raise the price.
Don't believe that high output surge stuff and a 1350 won't do the job on most Airstreams in California. My two Hondas run a 1500 btu Domestic Penguin on eco throttle. One is enough for boondocking but if you want to cool down you need two.
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08-21-2015, 07:15 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 30' Classic
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 96
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Thanks GammaDog. I'd bet I'm not the only one that would be interested in Lp run times for the Honda. I already carry a 20#LP bottle for my grill and would prefer not to carry a gas can too.
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