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Old 03-07-2014, 05:04 PM   #29
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More thoughts - When I ran my micro and AC, it had to be at the top of the 2400's ability as it is rated for 2000 watts continuous. I was drawing around 2100 watts by the specs sheets. You want to be around 80% or less peak output without going over for longer operation. Your AC, if Dometic 13,5, will start and operate at around 88% of a 2400ishc peak output. 2400s will run up to about 3000 watts for 20 seconds and would be fine running your AC alone. The 3000 would give you about 600 watts more continuous ability. The 3000 has a 30 amp plug-in so you can use the trailer "cord" while the 2400 would require an adapter as it is a standard 110/120 outlet. By the way use only one outlet when hooking up the RV. The generator will match the draw from a single outlet- just an FYI.
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If you buy new, I have already shared the Yamaha brand. Honda is good too but I point out that Honda has a plastic cam and several plastic components in the engine including the belt. The belts are $20 but servicing is not cheap.
I have had both a Honda inverter 2000 and 3000 apart and have never seen a belt. They are both direct drive engine to the generator coils mounted on the end of the engine. They are both a bitch to take apart but I doubt that the Yamaha is any different. Service costs are high, due to the extremely compact nature of the units where each and every part is designed to fit in a very specific way and is carefully engineered to be small and light, yet rugged and long life. The manual pull rope on my 3000 broke, and I thought, "no problem, I can fix that". Well, when I got the thing torn down to the point I could see where it was, I had spent a couple of hours and had parts all over. To get to the rope would have meant a complete tear down, so I decided that the electric start was all I needed...LOL. Two more hours to re assemble what I had taken apart, and I was back to where I started.

Another disassembly on the Honda 2000 to replace the low oil sensor turned out to be a similar issue. It was buried so deep in the bottom of the engine that I was unwilling to go that far to replace it. It works fine when warmed up, the issue was stalling until warm up. My quick and dirty solution was to put a bypass switch on the low oil sensor and turn it off until the genny warms up. Not the best solution, but taking the stator off the end of the engine, then the side out of the engine, all to replace a sensor, then the re assemble, was just not in the cards.

Fortunately, very little goes wrong with either the Honda or the Yamaha's, but if it does be aware of the difficulty of repair by a novice (like me).
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Go with two honda 2000, like most people said you use one 90% of the time! small ,lite , quiet,,uses less fuel,lots of power ,I even use mine at the cottage to run my 1/2 hp well pump,the honda inverter series can run sensitive electronics ,laptops,t.v.,your airstream has sensitive electronics(stereo,t.v.,power inverter,furnace a.c controls ,led lights ,etc) the inverter series is clean safe power.(normal generators are limited today on what they can power they cannot run sensitive electronics ,can not charge battery's ,
also a small lite eu2000 honda can be used to power electronics on the beach,( small portable fridge the size of a cooler,laptops ,charge cell phones,radios,charge your truck or car battery, (if you left your lights on in a trail parking lot,and no one around to give you a boost,)try carrying a large 3000 generator ,two honda 2000 generators are more practical for more then just your trailer, don't get me wrong the honda 3000 is a great generator , what generator sells the most the honda eu 2000 or the honda eu3000 ,there is a reason why people buy the eu2000 (flexibility ) I think the eu 3000 is designed for more permanent locations like cottages were your running higher electrical loads most of the time say over 1200watts.
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Go with two honda 2000, like most people said you use one 90% of the time! small ,lite , quiet,,uses less fuel,lots of power ,I even use mine at the cottage to run my 1/2 hp well pump,the honda inverter series can run sensitive electronics ,laptops,t.v.,your airstream has sensitive electronics(stereo,t.v.,power inverter,furnace a.c controls ,led lights ,etc) the inverter series is clean safe power.(normal generators are limited today on what they can power they cannot run sensitive electronics ,can not charge battery's ,
also a small lite eu2000 honda can be used to power electronics on the beach,( small portable fridge the size of a cooler,laptops ,charge cell phones,radios,charge your truck or car battery, (if you left your lights on in a trail parking lot,and no one around to give you a boost,)try carrying a large 3000 generator ,two honda 2000 generators are more practical for more then just your trailer, don't get me wrong the honda 3000 is a great generator , what generator sells the most the honda eu 2000 or the honda eu3000 ,there is a reason why people buy the eu2000 (flexibility ) I think the eu 3000 is designed for more permanent locations like cottages were your running higher electrical loads most of the time say over 1200watts.

Also there is no belt on honda generators!
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If you buy new, I have already shared the Yamaha brand. Honda is good too but I point out that Honda has a plastic cam and several plastic components in the engine including the belt. The belts are $20 but servicing is not cheap..
I think you mean the Yamaha has a belt and cheap plastic parts. That's why they weigh less and cost less.
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I know honda has no belts in there generators ,I'm not sure about the camshaft,I'm pretty sure it's metal ,I can't see honda putting a plastic camshaft in there # 1 inverter series premium generator ,I do know honda does use plastic camshafts in some of there honda engines that are usually installed on craftsman /sears, power Equipement ,and other aftermarket power Equipement ,I forget the engine series number ,but if you see a honda engine with gx before the c.c .(size of the engine) it's the real good honda engine commercial usage ,no plastic camshafts in these series engines. No sure about yamaha I owned other yamaha products and was satisfied with them ( outboard engine and motorcycle) but have owned at least 25 honda products and all are fantastic, I am a retired honda automotive tech (foreman) for over 32years.
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The Honda has pushrods and rocker arms.
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I agree that 2x2000 watt generators have many advantages over the 3000. A hot deal on a clean used 3000 would trump the advantages though.
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Honda 3000is vs 2x Honda 2000i

The 2000 has a belt driven camshaft as per the service manual and parts list. The 3000 is direct drive. It is good to clarify. Thank you.
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Honda 3000is vs 2x Honda 2000i

Honda uses an OHC design at least on the 2000 that uses a timing belt. I mention this as some are mentioning the option of using 2000 models with companions. Yamaha uses direct gear metal engine parts with push rods in their1000, 2000, 2400, 2800 and 3000s at least.

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Ahh yes the eu 2000 generator has a timing belt .in cars this belt last a long time depending on model year honda recommends replacing the belt at 100000 kilometres to 140000 kilometres . And a lot of people ignore what honda recommends and push it to 260000 kilometres or more or until it breaks .and when it does break most of the time it causes the piston to hit the valves and bends the valves. As per honda eu 2000 generator manual no schedule time to replace timing belt,or in honda shop manual, I guess it last a long time , I have had my eu 2000 for 10years and the only problem I have is if it's sitting for the winter sometimes the vent on the gas cap sticks closed and cause the engine to stall after running for 20 minutes, no air into the tank no fuel into the fuel pump and carb .very easy to diagnose if you run the engine and it stalls just loosen the gas cap and if you hear a vacuum sound most likely your vent on the gas cap is stuck,just take cap and tap it on the ground or in your hand and it should free up the vent valve.
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My Eu3000is is a sweet machine. But, it didn't want to run my 14.8K BTU A/C for more than 20 minutes when the generator stopped. It is also very heavy. If you want to leave it in the truck bed, and only have a 13.5K BTU A/C, it would be fantastic. The twin 2000 Hondas seem like a better way to go since I can lift each of them easily, and would only need the combined pair occasionally. The rest of the time, a single 2000 will recharge the battery bank just fine. If we get a 50 Amp coach, then a Honda Eu6500is with remote start, mounted on a hitch at the rear of the trailer would be tempting!

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My Eu3000is is a sweet machine. But, it didn't want to run my 14.8K BTU A/C for more than 20 minutes when the generator stopped. It is also very heavy. If you want to leave it in the truck bed, and only have a 13.5K BTU A/C, it would be fantastic. The twin 2000 Hondas seem like a better way to go since I can lift each of them easily, and would only need the combined pair occasionally. The rest of the time, a single 2000 will recharge the battery bank just fine. If we get a 50 Amp coach, then a Honda Eu6500is with remote start, mounted on a hitch at the rear of the trailer would be tempting!

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What kind of AC at what altitude? Were you running the water heater and/or fridge off electricity?

Coleman Mach 15k BTU (for example) says it needs less than 16A running on high, leaving about 900W of headroom for the continuous output of the EU3000is at sea level.
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