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Old 12-16-2013, 05:42 PM   #15
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I drove Arkansas 7 in the snow from Harrison to Hot Springs once. I got there at midnight. If I attempted to go more than 15 mph in the snow the van would get sideways on me.

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Old 12-16-2013, 07:02 PM   #16
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Old 12-16-2013, 07:31 PM   #17
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Wonderful post FaN. Some very interesting geography. We've been in the area, but only in the fall and not with an Airstream - just tent camping. I hope to get back to BC in the next few years. There is so much to see, we've always enjoyed it.
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:02 AM   #18
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I like the signs on I-70 coming east into Denver. They slow the truck traffic down to
25mph. When things level off and speeds begin to climb they remind you that it's not over yet and down you go again. When an interstate hwy takes you down to 25mph it's time to pay attention.
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:56 AM   #19
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Here is my wife and my observations on highway signs in the Ozarks. IF there is a curve arrow and a suggested MPH, then you can probably go 10-15 miles faster than the arrow speed.

HOWEVER, if there are directional arrows on the curve itself, many of htem, go the suggested speed on teh sign.

I think in MO those are not speed limits but suggested speed. If you wreck, you're liable to get a ticket for driving too fast for conditions which is a catch all.

My wife and I took highway 7 north to Eureka Springs when she picked up her BMW GS650 Twin in Tulsa. I folllowed in teh AR, she beat me to the campground.


One time many years ago I owned a Porsche 911, Car and Driver magazine said that highway 7 south of Eureka Springs was one of the 10 driving experiences in teh country. It's true--- in a Porsche and on a motorcycle. Pulling a 31' AS, ehh, not so much Driving Tours
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Old 01-06-2014, 11:15 AM   #20
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Note the number of vehicles passing this trucker (despite the double-solid line) who is jaking down one of the Hope-Princeton's steep grades.

I have had the same thing happen to me while towing the Airstream on the same highway/grade. Some of them almost took my left-front fender off when cutting back in.

Clip also shows numerous runaway lanes. I once witnessed a family parked in a runaway lane having a picnic. I suspect they may have been tourists, and didn't understand the sign.

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Old 01-06-2014, 11:29 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by Jim Lee View Post
I think in MO those are not speed limits but suggested speed.
Having taken a couple of highway design courses in college, and knowing how those posted advisory speeds were derived, I pay attention to them and don't usually try to exceed the advisory speed. But that's because I know my Airstream Interstate has horrendous understeer and a long wheelbase and can't be slung around a curve like it was a sports car. In my little Honda, then 10mph over the posted advisory speed is usually fine.

Ultimately, never take a curve faster than you're comfortable taking the curve, no matter what the posted speed limit or advisory speed. You are the best judge of your ability and your vehicle's capabilities, and no traffic sign is a substitute for your own judgment.
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Old 01-06-2014, 11:45 AM   #22
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:53 PM   #23
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Just to compare working and retirement you might want to watch this? It is the same hill as the video in post #20 above.

Cruising off Sunday Summit on the Hope Princeton West bound. - YouTube

West bound, Oct 7,2013, on the Hope Princeton coming off Sunday Summit (1282 m 4296 ft) - -- in comfort and style with the Airstream Clipper Class A, diesel pusher, with a Suzuki 4X4 in tow 4 down. We are running a little under.32000# GCVW at this point, loaded and heading for the Coast. We are running the PAC Brake only with a touch of the brake near the bottom. You will hear the camera take a picture each time I touch the brake.
Compare this to the truckers video - -- Jaking down the Hope Princeton - YouTube -- of the same run with an 8 axle SuperB @105000# with the Jake Brake rattling and then you decide if you want to work or retire? Do you want to take these 'runaway lanes' at runaway speed?

Original truckers video of same hill below.

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You handled that well, massey.

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