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Old 09-23-2007, 06:15 PM   #1
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Age Discrimination!

HI EVERYBODY..here is a time where power of the people might make a difference....There is a great campground here in Manitou Springs CO. called GARDEN OF THE GODS CAMPGROUNDS. That until recently changing hands, used to host AS rallies on occasion. Now, they have new owners (the old one's are rolling over in their graves) and these new owners have decided that any RV's or trailers over the age of 15 years are not welcome (allowed) to stay in their campground. This is an outrage! If anybody else feels this way, please direct your sentiments to these foolish people! Their email address is camp@coloradocampground.com. Let them know all of your thoughts. As new owners of a vintage "66 my husband and I were really looking forward to coming down and staying there and meeting some of you.

Thanks for your help!
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:21 PM   #2
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Sadly more and more campgrounds are going to an age limit. If you look at most 15 year old sob's you can understand why. I have heard of some campgrounds that exclude older sob's, but allow Airstreams of all ages.

Since most people can not tell the age of an Airstream, yours is now a 1995. Enjoy your stay.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:26 PM   #3
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If you own an Airstream you can pick its age. Few people know the difference between a '66 and a '96. Another one of the Airstream advantages.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:44 PM   #4
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I sent mine 2 weeks ago. Don't expect to get a reply.

Remember Alice's Restaurant! One email is a nut. 2 emails are a couple of *******. 3 emails is a movement. And that's what it is folks it's the Garden of the Gods Anti Vintage Snobbery Movement.

I may be trailer trash but I'm dang proud of it.

By the way they had a WBCCI rally there a few years ago with a bunch of vintage alumuminum.

Keep them emails comin
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:48 PM   #5
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I guess they didn't like hosting the Airstream rallies.

My parents have an older 5th wheel that has a year painted in small letters on the side. Once the rig reached the almighty 10-year limit of some campgrounds, they simply repainted a new year on it.


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Old 09-23-2007, 06:52 PM   #6
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You all are a kick! I actually mentioned that to somewhere that we were staying, lying and said she was an '87, was still told she was too old. But you are right and will do that to conform. HOWEVER, they used to welcome the AS rallies, so your registered comments would and could determine their future policy. So DO complain! Lastly, this place doesn't always ask ahea of time, nor is it on their on-line registration and my hubby (working locally) knows of at least 3 situations where AS folks were turned away, with no alternative. Go figure..w/ reservations!
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:08 PM   #7
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I'm sure there are other threads, but nothing new under the sun:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f48/...arks-5823.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...lace-8298.html

Don't tell them. Show up. Let them judge for themselves that you aren't a piece of junk. They can't tell a '68 from a '98!

I'm a boondocker & state-parker at heart. Nevah affected me...
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:16 PM   #8
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I've run into the "age thing" a couple of times. Both times, the conversation went like this:
(them on phone) "What year is your RV?"
(me) "It's an Airstream."
(them on phone) "Oh, okay. How long will you be staying with us?"
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:16 PM   #9
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That does happen. That is thier perogative for a private campground. They are basing it on the condition of 15yr old SOBs. Airstreams are an expection. No suprise there. If you want to stay at one of these tell them you have an airstream and offer to send a picture. Most will accept it.
If they don't give your business to someone else.
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:33 PM   #10
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Cool

Ya know, I'm the husband of DuRee, I'm an aging hippie (no pony tail any more, but I do have all of my hair) I love the Alice's Restaurant analogy. I also like the power to the people, let's let the GOG CG know we don't like this policy. Hey, does the Marriott not let old people stay in their hotels because they may have a heart attack and drop dead in one of their rooms?

please email these folks, nothing to loose!
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:02 PM   #11
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Old Airstreams don't die they just fade away.

The guy at the Manitou Springs Visitors Center is who tipped me about this policy he's got a 64 or so.

Funny thing is Garden of the Gods is open to tents. Tent vs. RV, how do you figure!

I can understand a campground not wanting a real junker but a minimum condition standard would make a lot more sense.

I don't know if it's age. It could be a class thing. Could GOG want to attract a certain high end class of camper.

I have been doing this for 40+ years and have never heard of a policy like this. Guess I just missed it. Come on, GOG, for gosh darn sakes. It's only camping!

On the other hand after both my wing windows blew out on the way to Manitou Springs it would not of suprised me if I got turned away with my duct tape windows no matter how shiney the Aluminum was.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:13 PM   #12
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When we registered at a campground in Florida, they asked us the age of our Airstream and we told them it was a 1996. At the time we were in our 69 Overlander. As we had just put on a bottle cover, they looked and said "what a nice trailer."

We laughed all the way home! Such snobbery is really the pits considering that most people know what a great trailer an Airstream is.

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Old 09-23-2007, 09:39 PM   #13
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Wow, that is disappointing! The RMVAC rally was held ther in 2004 & 2005...I knew they changed hands are were going after the more elite "bus" campers, but...hmpf!

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Old 09-24-2007, 12:01 AM   #14
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Funny thing is Garden of the Gods is open to tents.
Sure if you count setting up a tent in the parking lot in front of the shower house under the light of a Revcon MoHo as tent camping
My folks would bring thier 28Ft Dolphin up here from Florida and stay there for a month in the summers of 2004, 2005 & 2006 so we got to know the place fairly well.

2004 was under the old owners and it was a nice park with a homey atmosphere and a rotation of pretty decent local vendors bringing in dinner. BBQ night rocked.

By the summer of 2006 the clubhouse became a lounge, prices went up, and unused open space was converted to unused picknick areas. You got the impression that LL Bean kahki shorts where tollerated, but cut-offs where simply not permitted.
Theres a Jimmy Buffet song in there somewhere, but BBQ night still rocked.

Mom & Dad where unimpressed enough to drive up this summer in their Buick and get a condo.
They ended up buying the condo, which is a good thing because their Dolphin is a '89

BTW, if anyone knows who parks thier P1800 rifleback there, PM me. Our '69 145 is about as fixed as its going to get and Im thinking about trading up
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