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Old 05-12-2006, 12:59 PM   #1
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Guns, Pistols, RV'ing and ?? Felony

What do you independent thinkers think about a Texan with a handgun permit being thrown in jail while RV'ing out of state just because he/she packed a piece in the toolbox and it was illegal in the new state? Has anyone ever had any problems with this? I'm rather torn between the whole matter?
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Old 05-12-2006, 01:13 PM   #2
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What do you independent thinkers think about a Texan with a handgun permit being thrown in jail while RV'ing out of state just because he/she packed a piece in the toolbox and it was illegal in the new state? Has anyone ever had any problems with this? I'm rather torn between the whole matter?
I'm sorry to hear about your jail dilemma but you should be aware that gun regulations vary from state to state. I don't own a gun but I would venture some advice for the future for you to be cognizant of what the state gun regulations were in the state(s) you plan on traveling to in advance of traveling across state lines.
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What do you independent thinkers think about a Texan with a handgun permit being thrown in jail while RV'ing out of state just because he/she packed a piece in the toolbox and it was illegal in the new state? Has anyone ever had any problems with this? I'm rather torn between the whole matter?
I am very fond of my weapons, and being from New Orleans I have become even more so lately. My Christmas Present was a combat shotgun; the folding stock works very nicely in the house, trailer, or boat. I do feel that you have an obligation to know the laws of the state you are in and to obey them. I am not sure a toolbox is such a great place to keep a gun anyway. BTW if head a permit he should have been even more aware that he would have to follow the laws of the state he was in. I would bet that there is more to the story than just a weapon in a tool box, I bet attitude got him in trouble also.
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Old 05-12-2006, 01:20 PM   #4
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I think if you do a search there was a HUGE discussion on guns and travelling a while back. Lots of info there.
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Old 05-12-2006, 01:31 PM   #5
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Hypothetical story

Actually, this is not a true story. But having a gun while traveling with bears, javelinas, and terrorists out there seems to be my constitutional rights. I actually had 15 javelinas come up to my telescope at 12 pm one night and they were looking for my dogs (they are very territorial). I do own 2 books on gunlaws in the USA. And I don't actually store my guns in the toolbox. Thx for replies.
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Isn't it a state law that every Texan must own and carry a firearm?

I always take my pistol when we go camping, but you definitely need to be aware of the state laws of the states you are traveling to and thru. That being said, nobody will know you're packing heat unless you advertise it!
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Hand guns are the problem. Long guns usually are not. If you do carry a hand gun in your vehicle. Do not keep it where you can readily get to it or keep the ammo locked in the trunk, trailer or some other hard to reach area. Under no circumstances try to carry a pistol/handgun out of the country. You will be in big trouble.
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Old 05-12-2006, 02:50 PM   #8
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Traveler's Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States

I hope we can get Airstream25 to weigh in on this topic. He is much more well informed than I and travels more heavily armed than I do as well...

Meanwhile, I will suggest that all gun owners should keep a copy of Traveler's Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States by J. Scott Kappas. As Yukionna stated, the firearms laws vary from state to state. They should not vary, but they do. Technically, we should all be covered by the Second Amendment, but we are not.

In a nutshell, your itinerary should govern what firearms you take along. Woe be unto the Airstream owner whose travels take him into New York with a pistol in his tool box. On the other hand, I believe you Texans are more than welcome to bring your firearms to New Mexico and Arizona; though you may not conceal them on your person without a permit, and a Texas concealed carry permit is not good in New Mexico. If you get stopped in NM, just let the State Policeman know you have a firearm before you start fishing around for your registration and pull your pistol out. Things could escalate precipitously from that point.
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Concealed Carry in Texas

I am in Texas. I have a Concealed Carry License. I carry a gun. You are trained and educated on which States honor our plan when you complete an approved course. It is a shame to have to protect yourself, and others, but that is what it has come to. All States tangent to Texas accept our lisence. Mexico does not..........don't want to insult their delicate sensibilities.

BTW, a friend was called to assist an acquaintance broken down in the downtown Dallas area @ 3:00A.M...........as a last moment thought he put his pistol in his toolbox. While changing a blown radiator hose on the friends car they were accosted by armed thugs...........the resulting confrontation was something along the lines of the O.K. Corral. Good Guys 4, Bad Guys 0.
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I actually had 15 javelinas come up to my telescope at 12 pm one night and they were looking for my dogs (they are very territorial).
15 javelinas + guns = One Helluva Texas Bar-B-Que

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Old 05-12-2006, 04:35 PM   #11
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As a gun owner, I can tell you that each state has different rules as you may already know. Personally, there aren't a whole lot of states like Texas where you can carry and/or conceal (unless you are in law enforcement).

I do know that if you plan to go to Canada, you cannot bring you gun....AT ALL, so don't bring it cause they'll sieze it or deny you entry into Canada....maybe even haul you off to jail.

I've found that most any other state with basic laws will not allow a loaded gun to be within reach, except when using the gun at a range, etc while away from home. In your RV, you can in fact in most states have the gun loaded as you would in your own home. If you were to use the gun for self defense, you'd need to make sure whatever you did was within the law if it ever came to that.

When we travel, without the RV and I bring my gun(s), I place the guns in the back and the ammo and clips in the trunk or the other way around, so long as the two are not accessible without taking extra steps to get them together. That has been the normal accepted transport of firearms without any carry/conceal permits or permissions. I am sure some states may even balk at that, so you'd have to look at each state you plan on traveling through. However all the states I've traveled through this was acceptable as long as you are a registered gun owner with ID from your state of residence.

Personally, I feel that if one were thrown in jail for this type of offense, I'd be torn, even as an avid gun owner. If the state has not carry/conceal or you transport the weapon illegally, you break the law, and when you break the law, you pay the price for not doing your homework. Do I think jail is a fair price? In most cases no.
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Old 05-12-2006, 04:59 PM   #12
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Try this site:
http://www.packing.org

At the top of the page, hit 'state ccdw info'

Then find the RV Carry Map

It will give you state by state information on transporting weapons.


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Concealed Carry in Texas; Reciprocity With NM?

Melody Ranch,
I need to double check with Airstream25, but when I took the NM concealed carry licensing course last year, NM did not have reciprocity with TX. I hope this has changed since I took the course and that you are correct. Please confirm before you carry concealed on your person in NM.

Any traveler in NM may carry a loaded firearm concealed in the passenger compartment of their vehicle for personal protection. The same is true in AZ. In Colorado a loaded handgun must be in "plain view." Rifles and shotguns must also be in plain view in Colorado, but may not have a round in the chamber.

Here in New Mexico, I draw the limit at carrying crew-served weapons. Because of their weight, they really increase fuel consumption. Besides I can neither train my wife to be an A-gunner, nor does she demonstrate the required attention to discipline.
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[quote=Silvertwinkie]As a gun owner, I can tell you that each state has different rules as you may already know. Personally, there aren't a whole lot of states like Texas where you can carry and/or conceal (unless you are in law enforcement).

Silvertwinkie,

Just to set the record straight there are presently 37 states that issue concealed carry license to their citizens and two states (Alaska and Vermont) that have no restrictions.

http://www.moccw.org/map.html

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