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Old 04-30-2015, 03:43 PM   #29
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I forgot,

About guns: the rules in the park are the same in the park as they are in the state the park is located in. So, for example, in Yellowstone (Wyoming), you can open or concealed carry any lawful firearm without a permit. In Everglades (Florida) you cannot open carry but can carry concealed with a permit.

Federal buildings are off limits everywhere and concessionaires must comply with state law (in YNP the concessionaires can bar firearms if they choose).

Discharging the weapon is still unlawful but, obviously, circumstances would dictate whether you would be prosecuted.

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Old 04-30-2015, 04:15 PM   #30
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On the bright side, pretty much everyone in the park has noticed that more and more people are " calling out" these miscreants. Seems like the vast majority of our visitors that actually cherish the place are getting pretty tired of seeing this crap and will grab photos, get verbal and get on the phone(when able) to get it straightened out.

Makes a fella proud.

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I like to hear that. I think our society has gotten more and more to where you keep your mouth shut and stay out of other people's business, but when they're wrecking OUR stuff, it's OUR business.
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Heading into my 7th year at Yellowstone. You would not believe the behavior we see. Park regulations concerning safe distances from wildlife -- apparently don't apply to "special" people. Boardwalks? Only for sissies... Collecting artifacts, skulls, minerals? "Well, the park won't miss this tiny piece".

On the bright side, pretty much everyone in the park has noticed that more and more people are " calling out" these miscreants. Seems like the vast majority of our visitors that actually cherish the place are getting pretty tired of seeing this crap and will grab photos, get verbal and get on the phone(when able) to get it straightened out.

Makes a fella proud.

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7th time at YNP?
Pretty selfish, don't you think?
Shouldn't you think about other folks who haven't seen it yet?
You realize, every time a person steps foot in there, they're destroying natures delicate balance, right?
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I like to hear that. I think our society has gotten more and more to where you keep your mouth shut and stay out of other people's business, but when they're wrecking OUR stuff, it's OUR business.

Exactly. Nicely said!


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Graffiti vandals creep into National Parks

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Sorry, bad joke
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El Morro is a bit different. The oldest there are pre-Columbian petroglyphs; the most recent that I was able to find were from the late 19th century, when surveyors made their way through the area in the larger effort to decide on a way westward for the railroad and marked their visit with their names.

By the way, the more southerly route went past El Morro through Zuni country and westward. The more northerly was chosen, however, and went along what was to become Route 66/I40. You can see and hear the railroad up there now. The southerly route was effectively abandoned as a trade route at that point. El Morro became effectively frozen in time.


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If you think about it, his is similar to what ISIS is doing in the Middle East - destroying antiquities.

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While my emotions get carried away with what I would like to do to those who are malicious in their behavior, this is probably not the path to a solution. The value system they are demonstrating was formulated years before in families, or at least whatever family figure was present. It is this venue where the practice of love for our fellows and nature needs to be taught. Trying to undo the current aberrant behavior by punishment has no demonstrable effect.

Maybe we can attempt to set a positive example......

Please understand, this is my perspective only and does not suggest anyone except me needs to be following this.


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just as evil mockingly apes what is good
that is what graffiti is to art
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Graffiti vandals creep into National Parks

There is only one way to handle graffiti...

Paint it out, or otherwise obliterate it instantly.

When the "artists" are deprived the thrill of showing their handiwork to their friends, they find another target.

It is no wonder they have found national parks as a canvas, it will take the government six months to get the paperwork to approve abatement, and then another six months to bid the job, and then multiple inspection stops before the contractor can finish up.

The "artist" will have about three years to show off his handy work..



When my building is "hit" the "art" is gone before noon the first business day.

I have been hit about four times in thirty years. Not bad for a perfect and unprotected white canvas with excellent major highway exposure...


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