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Old 06-11-2014, 09:27 AM   #85
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The 6.2 I was referring to is the new Ford 6.2 V-8, which took the place of the 6.8 V-10 as their HD gas engine, and is also the same engine in the Ford Raptor F-150.

Pappy 19, do you think that a Ford gasoline truck with this configuration could work in my situation? I would need an F-350 crew cab, long bed to handle my truck camper at 3,200#, and pull the 23FB with the truck camper on board. I decided to go diesel at the time (3 years ago) that I added the Outfitter pop-up truck camper. I was concerned that there was not a gasoline engine offered that could adequately handle my needs.

I really like the towing performance of my diesel, but I am always exploring options as the diesel has its downsides.

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Old 06-11-2014, 10:32 AM   #86
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Pappy 19, do you think that a Ford gasoline truck with this configuration could work in my situation? I would need an F-350 crew cab, long bed to handle my truck camper at 3,200#, and pull the 23FB with the truck camper on board. I decided to go diesel at the time (3 years ago) that I added the Outfitter pop-up truck camper. I was concerned that there was not a gasoline engine offered that could adequately handle my needs.

I really like the towing performance of my diesel, but I am always exploring options as the diesel has its downsides.

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Absolutely the 6.2 Ford V-8 will work, just make sure you get the 4:30 rear end and not the 3:73. If I were you, I would order one instead of getting one off the lot. That way you will always get what you want. Now is a good time to order since they haven't started making the 2015's, so you get the benefit of any good changes they made on the 2014's.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:39 AM   #87
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:05 AM   #88
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There seems to be some misconception that a gas motored truck wont pull an Airstream trailer uphill at 70 plus MPH.

How much faster than 70MPH does a person need to pull a hill to be included in the ranks of the uphill racers?
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:28 AM   #89
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Century mark on this thread. If I were to summarize (with tongue in cheek):

1. Ford Diesel is trash
2. GM diesel is trash
3. Chrysler Diesel is trash
4. All gassers seem to be trash
5. Old trucks rock
6. New trucks regardless of brand are trash
7. Unless you can beat the time on the Pikes Peak Hill climb pulling your AS your tow vehicle is trash

So now that I am really depress that I own so much trash maybe I should get one of these.

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Oh no that won't work it is a GMC.

Maybe this one

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This should be good since we haven't yet trashed the Honeywell AGT1500 gas turbine engine. Should be good pulling an AS, top speed is only 45mph but easily goes OVER any traffic jams.

Thank goodness it is hump day
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Old 06-11-2014, 12:07 PM   #90
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There are no hills in Tennessee either. There are some 2-4 mile grades of 6 percent or more on I-40. I have pulled those grades and the same trailer with a older Ford 150 v8 with a 3.73 rear end and I have pulled the same grades with my 5.9 Dodge. I know for sure which one I prefer to pull with. (hint: it is not the one that is trying to decide between 2nd and 3rd at about 40 and gets 9 mpg for a run between Henry Horton State Park and Knoxville.)

I am glad I do not have to decide between a new diesel or gas truck righ now. My plan is to just keep this one. When I bought it they had 5.9's all over the lot and were giving hugh discounts. I paid less for the well equipped Dodge diesel new than I would have for a plainer F250 gas engine at the time. Maybe there will be some good buys ahead also??

I actually sorta like the diesel. My wife drives it as her everyday ride so it cannot be too terrible to drive. I tried to buy her a car but she would not take it. I did buy her a set of the power running boards so she can get in and out of it. Parked next to a 4 door Tundra the Dodge seems to be the same size and wheelbase.

Oil changes cost me $89 and we do it regularly. Have spent a lot of money on maintenance and repairs. But I do not have a comparison standard to judge it by. Put in a set of injectors at 130000. Looking forward to another 100,000 or so in the next 5 years.
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There seems to be some misconception that a gas motored truck wont pull an Airstream trailer uphill at 70 plus MPH.

How much faster than 70MPH does a person need to pull a hill to be included in the ranks of the uphill racers?
It's no misconception on my part. I have extensive experience towing a 7,400# Airstream up significant grades with two different 3/4 ton Suburbans with the 6.0 liter gasoline engine.

These gasoline powered 3/4 ton trucks CAN NOT pull an Airstream up a 5% grade at any 70 MPH. On many occasions, I have barely been able to maintain 50 MPH on these upgrades with the engine winding its little heart out, and both the engine and transmission on the verge of overheating.

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Old 06-11-2014, 12:24 PM   #92
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True story.

Hi, we were going to a Rally in Northern California. We started in Southern California. I was towing my 25' Airstream with my Lincoln and my friend was towing his 25' Airstream with his Dodge CTD. My friend's wife asked him if he would stay behind me, or pass me, when we hit the mountains and my Lincoln slowed to 28 MPH or less. Well, they were surprised to see my Lincoln, two lanes over, at about 60+ MPH passing everything except single cars. So I still believe in the 25' trailer rule. [un-written] The 25' size is the breaking point on whether you need, or should have, a half ton or more.
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I guess i will have to make you a video next time out?

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Lol, i drove trucks all 48 and lived most of my life in the rockies Steve.

I stand behind my assertion that if i can pull these grades at 70mph, this means that i can pull in excess of 99% of all interstate highway miles at 70 or better, and if you know the roads as well as I you will concede this fact.
No where in my statements do I say "interstate highways". Like I said, you will learn.
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Love my 2012 F-250 6.7 Power Stroke. And I tow with a diesel because I CAN :-)
my brother in law has a 2012 F-250 Super Duty 6.7L diesel and LOVES it.
too bad they cost over 50K.. kinda take the fun out of driving one..

for me i am looking, again, at the '99 to early '03 7.3L f-250 powerstroke fords which are going, with 150K miles, for 13K.. the way i look at it that a LOT of diesel to burn to make up the difference between the two.
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I have seen in person the above tractor/Airstream combo!!! (About 10 years ago. At the same camp as my avatar was taken.) Just check my avatar, it was June of 2003!

I believe it had 800k on the odometer when it was purchase for less than $20k. The front drive axle was removed and sold for a credit to reduce the purchase price even more. Then the fenders were installed on the remaining drive axle.


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We all know that tow vehicle discussions can provide an easy venue for forgetting our first and more important community rule, "Be courteous!".

It seems like this one is heading in that direction, so let's try to move back toward factual, civilized discussion of the pros and cons of gas vs diesel tow vehicles.
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