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Old 04-22-2004, 08:12 PM   #43
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Last weekend I did a round trip from Florida to Ohio and back again. Cheapest fuel was between West Virginia and Florida. I paid $1.499 for diesel at Flying J in Wytheville, VA, on last Friday. Monday morning it had gone to $1.529. Near the Georgia/Florida line it was $1.529. Once back in Florida it spiked up into the mid $1.70's. I did not pay attention to gasoline prices, but diesel is generally .10 a gallon cheaper now, one spot I recall being .16 a gallon cheaper. Makes me glad I bought a diesel.

Gainesville, Florida area, diesel is running $1.73-$1.79, regular gas, around $1.839 in most places.
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Old 04-22-2004, 08:14 PM   #44
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Well here it is just over a month ago from my previous post:

[B]Unleaded $ 2.01 /down 6%
[B]Diesel $ 2.25 / up 14 %

I guess somebody forgot to batch up some diesel around here,unless there's been a increase in demand for diesel by 14 %,and I don't think it's been in sales of more diesel burners in the last month ! Can't wait for every commodity thats transported by diesel power,to go up 14 % as well.
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Old 04-24-2004, 08:18 PM   #45
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I just got a new Citibank Dividend Platinum Select credit card in the mail today that gets a full 5% cash back on supermarket, gas station and drugstore purchases and 1% on all other purchases, up to $300 a year. You better believe that I'm going to charge all my gas and groceries on this card from now on, or until I max out the $300 annual rebate.

You can apply for this card online if you're interested.

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Old 04-24-2004, 08:37 PM   #46
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ABC news?

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I see you have all your chitlins in one bag - bravo! good link.

A little paranoia can go a long way sometimes, especially for the insecure.

What I heard - from ABC news - is that there will be a sharp, early summer increase, but will also drop by July.

If you believe the media talking heads I have a bridge that I want to show you.

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Old 04-24-2004, 08:42 PM   #47
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Diesel conversion

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Well guys let me see I've got 8,000 miles to pull @ 12.5 mpg = 640 gallons of #2 diesel @ $2.00 =$1280.00 for fuel. My friend just replaced his 454 that got 8.5 mpg with a PowerStroke and he is going on the same trip with me he would have used 940 gallons @ $2.00 =$1880.00 a difference of $600.00 by using a PowerStroke in liew of a Chevy 454.
By my thumbnail calc he should pay off the conversion in another 80,000 miles, good thinking.

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Old 04-24-2004, 09:12 PM   #48
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Talking Fuel prices

Fuel prices will continue to climb as long as we use the same amount of fuel,i.e., as fuel prices go up, wages have have to go up to pay for it. When labor costs go up fuel prices go up to pay for the labor.

How to get the prices to go down without hurting the economy? One possible way, in the 1990 census it was determined that the average commute was 10 miles---120,000,000 commuters (and it does not make any difference if they drive or take public transportation) equals 2,400,000,000 miles per day. If the CAFE is 20mpg that comes out to about 120,000,000 gallons of fuel per day. What would happen if the commuters could be convinced to move within 5 miles of their workplace the average commute would not be 5 miles but wuold be close to 3.5 miles. This would save about 80,000,000 gallons per day and the middle easterners would go back to herding camels. The housing industry woul go crazy building new houses. The average tenure in a home is about 5 years so people could move closer to work instead of out in the country.
Gridlock would all but disappear and commute times would be cut to twenty minutes. You could even go home for a noon--lunch once a week. For example a complex with the industry/office/store in the center one mile radius would be large enough to support appartments from 1 mile to 2 miles condos from 2 to 3 miles single family homes from 3 to 4 miles out and 5 acre ranches for the horsey set from 4 to 5 miles out. conservatively you could house 275,000 workers in this area. Just think without gridlock air polution from commuting would be cut by 80% and the need for playing bumper/cars to get to work faster would be reduced and insurance rates might even go down.

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JanP,

Your thinking is too rational. SUV sales, Hummers, four wheel drive, 70mph speed limits, 300hp engines, motorhomes, fifthwheels, (airstreams excluded), etc. are anything but, rational. I don't want to tell you how many I would get zinged on.

Actually, I think the number one driver of gas prices is the weak US dollar. Oil is priced in dollars and there is no sign of the dollar strengthening in the short term.
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Here's a little table I crafted showing the impact of gas prices on a gasoline powered pickup truck that gets 12 miles per gallon.

Gas Price Yearly Cost Monthly Cost Differential
$1.50 $1500 $000
$1.55 $1550 $4.17
$1.60 $1600 $8.32
$1.65 $1650 $12.50
$1.70 $1700 $16.67
$1.75 $1750 $20.83
$1.80 $1800 $25.00
$1.85 $1850 $29.17
$1.90 $1900 $33.33
$1.95 $1950 $37.50
$2.00 $2000 $41.65
$3.00 $3000 $125.00

As you can see a price jump to $3 a gallon could have a serious impact on someones budget. Someone commuting in a 35 mpg+ Ford Escort or similar vehicle it would have minimal impact.
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Talking fuel economy

Horsepower available has little to do with gas mileage. The horsepower used at any given time can be estimated by dividing 730 by the mpg you are using,i.e., the 35 mpg car is using 730 divided by 35 equals 20.8 Hp. The same car with a 300 horsepower engine shoehorned inside (neglecting the added 1000 pounds of weight) would still use only the 20.8 Hp. The only difference would be in the acceleration rate available, with the 300 Hp engine you would burn enough rubber to attract the red/blue lights and need new tires every 100 miles. In my opinion the USDOT should never have excluded the SUV contingent from the CAFE calculations.
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How are pump prices established?

Yesterday I saw the local mini mart raise its price 3 times . It started at $1.89 regular unleaded and then 1.91, 1.93 and finnally 1.95. Each time I drove by it had gone up again. Did they recieve 3 shipments of fuel that day at 3 different prices? Hmm....
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Old 04-25-2004, 03:03 PM   #53
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Thumbs down Prices in EU

Just for funny comparison :

I live in The Netherlands , Europe .....

Diesel : 0,87 per liter = $ 3,90 per gallon
Regular unleaded : 1,25 per liter = $ 5,60 per gallon
Premium unleaded : 1,30 per liter = $ 5,83 per gallon

I'm very sorry ........ this is not funny !!
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Janet, a lot of those chain store/gas stations have computer controlled gas pump pricing via satallite link. The home office can change the pump price from thousands of miles away. In a nutshell, it is done to maximize corporate profits. Best thing to do is shop around for fuel. I try and stay away from the minimarts, as they seem to have the highest prices on EVERYTHING.
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Wink fuel price

Pick has the right idea to shop around. I think that we should put the CB radios to work and tell each other where the best prices are. Could beat the process of wandering around burning $2.00 gas at 7 mpg to find the best price. When we are doing the MH thingy we travel on ch14.

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