|
11-14-2011, 06:30 AM
|
#1
|
Rivet Master
1970 27' Overlander
Espanola
, Full Timer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,753
|
First test towing
We were shifting the direction of our AS so the hitch would be pointing south for winterizing and decided to take a four mile test pull. The files are large but if you click on the 'blog' link you will see all the pictures.
The truck and AS seemed to be nice and level, save for the trucks rear end being pulled down somewhat. We installed coil over shocks in the rear. I think at some point we will take the whole package to a scale weigh area and see what we are pulling. Let me see if I can get one large file here, but DO check out the blog link. and tell me what you think.
|
|
|
11-14-2011, 06:51 AM
|
#2
|
Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
|
Yes, the trailer looks pretty level, but in the long run you won't be happy, and perhaps won't be safe towing with just a ball, and no weight distribution hitch.
I'm sure this will develop into another of "those threads", but the weight distribution hitch does a lot more than reduce the drooping of the rear of the tow vehicle. The most significant thing it does, IMHO, is return the weight to the front axle of the tow vehicle, which happens to be the primary stopping, and only steering axle of the rig.
You mention goint to the scales, and if you do, I suggest you weigh the front axle only of the truck, both without and with the trailer to see how much weight is lost with the trailer attached.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
__________________
Regards,
Steve
|
|
|
11-14-2011, 06:59 AM
|
#3
|
Rivet Master
1970 27' Overlander
Espanola
, Full Timer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,753
|
We have a reese straight hitch in the truck bed...but have never used it...is this what you mean? I had heard that they are rough on the hitch and can actually bend the hitch but are supposed to shift the weight towards the front end of the truck.
|
|
|
11-14-2011, 07:10 AM
|
#4
|
Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airbuckled
We have a reese straight hitch in the truck bed...but have never used it...is this what you mean? I had heard that they are rough on the hitch and can actually bend the hitch but are supposed to shift the weight towards the front end of the truck.
|
Yes, the Reese is one brand of hitch. And, yes it's possible to bend the tongue of the trailer with a WD hitch, but only if the hitch is the wrong weight rating and/or if the hitch is not adjusted correctly.
If you do use the WD hitch, which I believe most users on this forum will recommend, it would be better to not use the coil over shocks with the hitch because they tend to mask the objective in adjusting the hitch.
__________________
Regards,
Steve
|
|
|
11-14-2011, 07:34 AM
|
#5
|
"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
|
AB,
What Steve said....
It should be much clearer after a trip to the CAT scales, you can see in yellow @ black just how much weight needs to be transferred to the trucks steering axle.
These two weight tickets show the difference, first ticket is with no weight distribution adjustment, second WD adjusted for towing.
Bob
__________________
I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
|
|
|
11-14-2011, 09:44 AM
|
#6
|
Maniacal Engineer
1971 25' Tradewind
Lopez Island
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,244
|
Your truck appears to be an older regular cab 8' bed F150, and the tongue weight on your trailer is likely 500 +/- lbs... in this case, a weight distributing can improve the handling. My guess is that you'll end up w/ a lot more stuff in the back of that F150 when you start making trips - I know we do w/ our 25' Tradewind. You may find those coil overs handy anyway :-). I used RideRite air bags on our F250 to tune the suspension; this has really improved the ride.
- Bart
|
|
|
12-21-2011, 07:13 AM
|
#7
|
Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
AB,
What Steve said....
It should be much clearer after a trip to the CAT scales, you can see in yellow @ black just how much weight needs to be transferred to the trucks steering axle.
These two weight tickets show the difference, first ticket is with no weight distribution adjustment, second WD adjusted for towing.
Bob
|
Bob, new to this whole trailer thing, but how does it work at the scales? Is there a charge for the service? Are they same scales that you see along the highway that trucks have to stop at? Thanks, Michael
|
|
|
12-21-2011, 07:38 AM
|
#8
|
2 Rivet Member
2008 20' Safari SE
Thumb Area
, Michigan
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 95
|
Yes you have to pay a fee. No they are not the highway scales. The scales being discussed are located at major truck stops. For locations do an Internet search for CAT SCALES.
__________________
Richard from MI
20' 2008 Safari SE, Dill TPMS Silver Dog House
2007 GMC 1/2 ton Sierra ARE Cap
AIR # 10494
|
|
|
12-21-2011, 08:04 AM
|
#9
|
"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
Bob, new to this whole trailer thing, but how does it work at the scales? Is there a charge for the service? Are they same scales that you see along the highway that trucks have to stop at? Thanks, Michael
|
Chief,
As noted above the CAT scales are located at the truck service plaza's.
Your first weight will be the primary, usually around 8 bucks, subsequent weights 2-3 $.
It's important to get a TV weight w/o trlr as a baseline. I do it with full fuel and partially loaded to approximate towing weight.
On this ticket you can see the steering axle weight that I'm trying to match.
If you compare the fully loaded "dock'n" weights,(prev post), you will see that all but 100lbs has been transferred forward.
Proper weight transfer and a LEVEL rig is the goal, CAT's are your best friend in this pursuit.
Bob
__________________
I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
|
|
|
12-21-2011, 10:01 AM
|
#10
|
Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
|
Thanks, guys, I have already started making up check list of things to do when I find "my" Airstream. This will be one of the first things to get done.
|
|
|
12-21-2011, 10:57 AM
|
#11
|
Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
Bob, new to this whole trailer thing, but how does it work at the scales? Is there a charge for the service? Are they same scales that you see along the highway that trucks have to stop at? Thanks, Michael
|
In some states, including Idaho and Washington, the scalehouses run by the state are left on when closed, and you can just pull through and self weigh to your hearts content. The weights are posted on a digital readout for you to see and record yourself. I use this often, just to check the weights on my axels and total weights I am hauling, as well as the weight of the tow vehicle.
Now, when the scales are "open" you might be able to use them in the same way, but with permission only. I would not do it unless it is a very quiet time, they have to get the trucks through rapidly and no one wishes to be held up.
But if you see a "closed scale" in other states, you might just want to pull through and check, they may leave them on in a lot of areas, I just don't know. I think they leave them on for the truckers to use if they think they may have picked up an over weight load or need to adjust their axle spacing based on load.
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|