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04-23-2019, 06:03 AM
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Coast to Coast
2016 26' Flying Cloud
Winston Salem
, North Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 126
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Fiamma Bike Rack failure -has this happened to you?
We recently experienced a failure on one of the arms that hold the bike rack. The rack was installed at the factory and, according to Airstream, the load is 77 lbs. We carry two Townie bikes (35 lbs each) and were traveling on some fairly bumpy roads in Texas & Louisiana. I went to take the bikes off and noticed that one arm was completely detached from the Airstream.
To make matters worse, I had just heard from a fellow Airstreamer that his bike rack fell off on a highway and they lost both bikes - but thankfully no one was injured. This is two complete failures I know of in less than a month's time.
I have contacted Airstream - whose only real response is that it is a vendor problem. I am also reaching out to Fiamma, but beforehand want to see if others have had similar problems. I'm not a metals engineer, but the part that connects to the AS seems substandard for this job - pictures attached.
And to warn others to check this rack regularly - it's very dangerous, particularly to those traveling behind you....
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04-23-2019, 06:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,140
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It's happened before
There have been several threads and many people reporting the same failure over the years. Repeated bouncing puts too much stress on that bracket, exposing the weakness of that design, especially once you get close to the supposed 75 lbs. limit.
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04-23-2019, 06:54 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Moss Point
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 196
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Horrible. Glad you caught it before losing the rack and bikes while moving.
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04-23-2019, 10:09 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 30' Classic
Thousand Oaks
, California
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,637
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Horrible. We pack our bikes in the bed of the truck. I haven’t heard of these failures when I was researching, unfortunately you will usually find issues with stuff if you’re looking hard enough. It’s obviously not a one off, but not enough for them to do a total recall. Looks like they need to use a different material for that bracket?
Best of luck! Glad you didn’t lose your bikes or worse.
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04-23-2019, 11:56 AM
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Rivet Master
2022 20' Basecamp
1968 17' Caravel
Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 613
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I've had Fiammas on three Airstreams over the past 10 years. All installed by me. One was a transfer from an earlier trailer.
I'm always careful to adjust the support arm angles so that they don't bind on the vertical tubes thereby avoid putting undo stress on the trailer wall bracket cast members. I've found that the arms should actually float a very slight bit on the vertical tubes.
Our two bikes have always been 27 pounds or lighter, so well within the weight limit.
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04-23-2019, 11:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2022 20' Basecamp
1968 17' Caravel
Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 613
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Here is a source for replacement arms for the Fiamma Airstream Carry-Bike
I am going to carry one or two arms just in case.
https://www.fiammausa.com/en/carry-b...e-airstream-en
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04-23-2019, 12:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
, Canada
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverWind
Has anyone here found a source for replacement arms for the Fiamma Airstream Carry-Bike?
Fiamma's Spare Parts catalog does not feature the Airstream rack. They all seem to be van or rv specific.
I'd like to carry one or two arms just in case.
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We had our rack break at the same point as above. You can order parts direct from Fiamma USA. Part numbers etc can be found at the following link:
Hope this helps
Cheers
Doug
https://www.fiammausa.com/en/carry-b...e-airstream-en
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04-23-2019, 06:42 PM
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Cheshta
2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
Kapaau
, Hawaii
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 8
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Fiamma bike rack failure
I checked my rack today and discovered the same failure on one of the support arms. Thank you for alerting me to this problem. Perhaps a stainless bracket such as those sold in marine chandleries would be a better option so long as we take care of the electrolysis issue.
Cheshta Buckley
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04-23-2019, 07:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
, Canada
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheshta
I checked my rack today and discovered the same failure on one of the support arms. Thank you for alerting me to this problem. Perhaps a stainless bracket such as those sold in marine chandleries would be a better option so long as we take care of the electrolysis issue.
Cheshta Buckley
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I've wondered this also. These brackets very much seem to be the weak point of the rack. With luck someone much (smarter) than me can come up with a replacement part that we can substitute with.
So all you engineer types please put your thinking caps on....
As a side note I know about 6-8 people who own this same rack and everyone of them has had this issue of it breaking at the same point.
By the way the replacement parts are not cheep. The manufacture seems to be taking a "known problem" and instead of trying to fix it. Is doing nothing but turning it into a "profit centre"..... Surprise Surprise .....
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04-23-2019, 07:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 30' Classic
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 285
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Fiamma Bike Rack
I'm really glad I read this thread. We were going to have one installed on our 2012 Classic today by the dealer, but the shipment did not come in. I'm having second thoughts now after reading that this is a problem that has happened to more than a couple people. Some of the roads we travel are so bumpy, I would hate to have the bikes and or rack fall off and risk injuring anyone. We have a bike rack that can attach to the front of the TV bumper that works ok (even though it is a little bit of a pain for the passenger to see well through the bikes).
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04-23-2019, 08:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
, Canada
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kswelsh
I'm really glad I read this thread. We were going to have one installed on our 2012 Classic today by the dealer, but the shipment did not come in. I'm having second thoughts now after reading that this is a problem that has happened to more than a couple people. Some of the roads we travel are so bumpy, I would hate to have the bikes and or rack fall off and risk injuring anyone. We have a bike rack that can attach to the front of the TV bumper that works ok (even though it is a little bit of a pain for the passenger to see well through the bikes).
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Don't let having this issue scare you....
We mounted our rack back in 2013 and its been great. It's travelled about 100,000 miles since the install and the failure we had just happened last fall. I still haven't purchased the replacement parts as shipping them to Canada seems to be expensive.
So in the interim we just used a SS-bolt to hold everything in place and it seems to work fine. My buddy will bring us the official parts when we meet them next month in MI and I will change them out when I get time. In the interim the bolt seems to be working fine.
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04-23-2019, 08:52 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2017 27' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Two Peas
We recently experienced a failure on one of the arms that hold the bike rack. The rack was installed at the factory and, according to Airstream, the load is 77 lbs. We carry two Townie bikes (35 lbs each) and were traveling on some fairly bumpy roads in Texas & Louisiana. I went to take the bikes off and noticed that one arm was completely detached from the Airstream.
To make matters worse, I had just heard from a fellow Airstreamer that his bike rack fell off on a highway and they lost both bikes - but thankfully no one was injured. This is two complete failures I know of in less than a month's time.
I have contacted Airstream - whose only real response is that it is a vendor problem. I am also reaching out to Fiamma, but beforehand want to see if others have had similar problems. I'm not a metals engineer, but the part that connects to the AS seems substandard for this job - pictures attached.
And to warn others to check this rack regularly - it's very dangerous, particularly to those traveling behind you....
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Linda and I have just returned from a trip thru Mississippi, Louisiana, and Florida. While in Henderson, La. I noticed the same arm failure as yours. I was able to place a pin thru the remaining arm and secured it with what else but "DUCK" tape (don't leave home without it). There was a lot of road construction and some very bumpy southwest Louisiana roads. I'm certain that was the cause. I have a 2017 AS27ft Serenity with dealer installed hitch. Less than 4000 miles traveled. Have you found a replacement, If so from whom?
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04-23-2019, 09:00 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2017 27' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 19
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Just saw the link posted for replacement, guess I will be getting in touch with them as well.
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04-24-2019, 07:11 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Good info, but looking at your profile, you have a Tundra, and in the pic, you have a cover on. Any reason you simply don't put them in the pickup bed, particularly if you know you are going to be on some rough roads?
In my case, with a Suburban, it has a roof rack and although it's a major PITA to get the bikes up and down, I have an Yakima roof mount for 4 bikes because I wasn't really thrilled looking at the Fiamma and this thread really validates my decision, because I do travel sometimes on not the smoothest of roads.
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04-24-2019, 09:34 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 20' Flying Cloud
austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 82
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Thanks for the heads up. I carry 1 bike but it's an ebike and is quite heavy (45#s). Looks like it's the only bike I'll be carrying on the Fiamma bike rack without worrying/wandering how the arm is holding up.
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04-24-2019, 09:43 AM
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DR M
2011 34' Classic
Eastlake
, Colorado
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 19
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Fiamma Bike Rack failure
We had ours break in the same spot in december when we left LA to go back to Phoenix. We got on I10 off the I710 and when you go up the hill after I15 it gets real bumpy. It's not washboard but close to it. Didn't notice the break until we got to Phoenix. I called Fiamma and told them about it and gave them the part numbers I needed to fixit and they sent them to my at no cost. Of course we this was only the second time with bikes on it and we installed it in September last year.
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04-24-2019, 09:48 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 25' International
chino hills
, California
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 154
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Thank you for sharing failure of the bike rack. I have wanted one but my husband not so much. He does not like the way the bike rack looks on the airstream. I have a townie also. Would love to be able to take my bike with us. I do have a question for everyone. I have seen a platform that was designed by an engineer that goes inside their 19FT airstream that secures their two bikes. May have to consider building this instead of an outside rack .Please share how they’re able to resolve this defect .It definitely would be a concern. Look forward to hearing how the problem is resolved. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
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04-24-2019, 10:03 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' International
Boise
, Idaho
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 194
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Being prepared..
I also have the Fiamma bike rack, installed by the factory. We travel many miles on bumpy roads with bikes, so I am assuming failure is imminent!
From the pictures, I can't tell what parts I should buy ahead of time? Just the arm (#98656-780) or more than that?
Thanks,
Adam
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04-24-2019, 10:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 30' Classic
Jacksonville
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 724
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This is the most secure rack I've ever used. Those strut braces to the back of the unit are barely necessary if you are traveling roads. If you travel "trails" then disregard . The Fiamma bike rack on my trailer has six through bolted connections to the frame. It is the most secure rack I've ever used. Of course I installed it and put a stress relieved connection on those braces. Either way a broken rack pot metal bracket is better than a hole in the skin.
I've been hauling bikes off the back of a vehicle since the 90s. This particular rack has 10,000 miles on it.
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04-24-2019, 11:25 AM
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Bill Crockett
2012 27' FB International
Currently Looking...
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 104
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If your rig is long enough for it to bounce on rough roads then that bracket will fail. Fiamma knows this and has known it for sometime. I am guessing they would rather the bracket fail than have it rip out of the Airstream wall that it is screwed into. Regardless, it is a poor design and they charge $50 to replace the bracket and the arm. They could at least sell us the just bracket at cost plus shipping but no.... they are not concerned about customer dissatisfaction so they force you to buy the arm and the bracket.
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