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Old 07-04-2004, 02:20 PM   #15
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Nope. No real good place to keep it in a sedan.
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Old 07-04-2004, 05:03 PM   #16
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with 80 gallons onboard we begin looking for fuel at 1/3 full. Below 1/2 the gauges get a little sloppy. If the "Low Fuel" light on the dash starts flickering we stop at gthe very next place no matter the price (had to do this twice).

If we're stopping for the night we fill up no matter what. I've often thought about a "reserve" tank since I'm usually light. But since we mostly travel on major highways gas is very too far away.
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Old 07-04-2004, 06:05 PM   #17
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The very first thing I checked out when driving my motorhome to Georgia was the fuel guage and how far I could go. My guage is very close to accurate. the last fill up was 42 gallons and the guage was close to 1/4 tank and I carry 60 gallons. Most of the trips taken so far have been on US highways and my fuel monitor , which is not on the dash but sitting next to me, only alerts me when the time between stops reaches the three hour mark. I stop then to eat something. If I go passed the second stop then the alerts come more often. the system works.
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Old 07-04-2004, 06:48 PM   #18
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I average 12.5 mpg towing and have a 30 gallon tank. I look for fuel at 250 miles and only on rare occassions have I ever gone to 300 miles before refueling. If I take on fuel at 250 miles I know that I can make it the rest of the day. The Exit Authority lists all the fuel and chow halls along the interstates. We use it and pretty well know in advance where we will be stopping for fuel. When we are off the interstate we use streets and trips and look for major intersections or cities at 200-275 mile intervals. I have heard too many horrow stories of diesels running out of fuel and having to be towed. I don't plan on this happening to me, but if it does please stop and offer help. I do run with a full tank of gasoline in my 3000 watt generator that I carry in the bed of the truck.
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Old 07-04-2004, 07:01 PM   #19
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Quick question: I know marine diesels need to be primed if they run out of fuel. Is the same true for modern day pickup trucks with diesels?
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Old 07-04-2004, 07:15 PM   #20
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Don, a quick answer maybe yes maybe no. If you secure the engine when it first starts to stutter and refill then it may start. There is a manual "pump" near the fuel filter on most diesels that can be pumped to prime. You can remove the fuel filter and use the electric fuel pump to push fuel to the filter. When you see a flow reinstall the filter and try it. Then the next thing to do is to have a tow truck haul it to the diesel shop where they can remove the injectors and prime the system and reinstall the injectors. Hope this helps
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Old 07-04-2004, 07:21 PM   #21
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Diesel pumps need to be primed either by a hand pump in line, the electric pump in tank or pressurizing the system with air.

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Old 07-05-2004, 08:09 AM   #22
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Quick question: I know marine diesels need to be primed if they run out of fuel. Is the same true for modern day pickup trucks with diesels?
I've had two diesels, and I ran out once in each one.

The first was a '92 Dodge Cummins with mechanical injection. In this one, you had to loosen the fittings on every injector with a couple of wrenches, then crank the starter motor until all the air was purged from the lines.

The second was a '95 Ford Powerstroke Turbo in an E250 van. The Powerstroke has EFI, so I had high hopes that I could just add fuel and drive off. For some reason, though, I had to pour fuel into the filter housing, which is in the vee on top of the engine. It's probably a very accessible location in a pickup, but a major pain to get to in a van - lots of disassembly of air inlet pieces and heat shields.

I hope more modern diesels are easier to get running that either of these, but if you have one, I'd advise you not to find out!

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Old 07-05-2004, 11:13 AM   #23
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I have not run out yet in my DuraMax but the book says I will have to bleed and prime the system at the fuel filter. Done this at a filter change not a problem. Hope I don't have to do it for real.
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Old 07-05-2004, 12:23 PM   #24
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Old 07-05-2004, 12:30 PM   #25
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Diesel pumps need to be primed either by a hand pump in line, the electric pump in tank or pressurizing the system with air.

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A simple thing to do on EFI Diesels would be to program the ECM to turn off the injectors when the fuel quantity is less than 1 gallon. OBDII can tell fuel quantity that closely. That means that you have 1 gallon less of usable fuel, but think of the aggravation it could save, just adding a few gallons of fuel, restarting the engine, and driving away. No priming, no grease, no removing covers. No cursing and gnashing of teeth. The only down side would be if the fuel sender malfunctioned, but that is what we have AAA for...
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Old 07-05-2004, 12:51 PM   #26
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I haven't carried extra fuel along on any of my trips, so far. But, I agree with Tinsel Loaf that it can be very tense when driving at night, with the 'low fuel'
warning lit (for quite a few miles), hoping that over the crest of the next hill will be a gas station.
I've had that happen a couple of times and it ain't fun. Soooo, from now on, when on long Airstream excursions, I think I WILL be taking along a small amount of extra gas.
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:01 PM   #27
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A simple thing to do on EFI Diesels would be to program the ECM to turn off the injectors when the fuel quantity is less than 1 gallon. OBDII can tell fuel quantity that closely. That means that you have 1 gallon less of usable fuel, but think of the aggravation it could save, just adding a few gallons of fuel, restarting the engine, and driving away. No priming, no grease, no removing covers. No cursing and gnashing of teeth. The only down side would be if the fuel sender malfunctioned, but that is what we have AAA for...
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well, mr.mastercylinder.....if its that simple, why havent those brilliant engineers thought of it?
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Old 07-05-2004, 02:39 PM   #28
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well, mr.mastercylinder.....if its that simple, why havent those brilliant engineers thought of it?
They have. It is used on larger diesel engines, like the ones in big trucks, trains and ships. They are even more of a pain to prime than our little ones.
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