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06-15-2013, 03:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Berlin
, Maryland
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Extra Diesel fuel.
I wanted to add an expanded fuel tank to our F 250 however I was told that if I did it would adversely impact the warranty. So I was wondering if anyone carried extra Diesel fuel in a 2 or 5 gallon container for emergencies.
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06-15-2013, 04:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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When we travel in areas where I think it may be a problem, we carry two five gallon cans of Diesel in the back of the truck. I tie them to the side of the truck bed to prevent them from turning over, and have not had a problem.
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Steve
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06-15-2013, 05:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Berlin
, Maryland
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,787
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Steve
Thanks
John
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06-16-2013, 05:25 PM
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2012 dodge 4x4 diesel
1975 Argosy 22
Truckee
, California
Join Date: Feb 2012
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just keep topping off your fuel when you can. When i was a rookie I almost ran out 2 times and had to ask a truker at a truck stop for fuel and also some nice burners coming back from burning man at another incident. there's no guarantee every fuel stop town has diesel on supply.
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06-16-2013, 06:33 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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You can get tool boxes with transfer tanks built into the bottom, or just use a cross bed tank like the heavy equipment guys do. FWIW I put expanded tanks on my 96 F350 AND put the cross bed tool box/tank combo, only problem now is that it takes a friggin' bank loan to fill up.
My total capacity is somewhere around 125 gallons. I use the cross bed tank to refuel tractors and other farm equipment.
Aaron
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06-16-2013, 07:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
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Check out Titan auxiliary fuel tanks. I replaced the stock 34 gallon tank with a 56 gallon under cab and body Titan tank on my 2012 Dodge Ram diesel. The stock pump and fittings are used in the new tank so the only lost warranty is on the removed and discarded diesel fuel tank itself.
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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06-18-2013, 06:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Berlin
, Maryland
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,787
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Switz did you talk to Dodge about your warranty before you added the titan tank. I am being told my dealership not to add it. Maybe I need to go to Ford HQ for their input.
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06-18-2013, 06:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2009 27' FB Flying Cloud
1982 31' International
1991 35' Airstream 350
Jay
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Check out these guys.
Transfer Flow, Inc. - Aftermarket Fuel Tank Systems
Some folks plumb the added tanks into the stock fuel system. Others simply carry a tank in the truck bed with a pump and fuel nozzle and add fuel to the stock tank when needed.
Regards,
JD
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Jeff & Cindy
'09 27FB Flying Cloud;'82 31 International
'91 350 LE MH; '21 Interstate 24GT
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06-18-2013, 07:25 AM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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Beware of too much fuel. If you are a heavy user this is a great idea. Most of us are heavy users while towing. When not towing, not so much. Diesel fuel has a tendency to grow some "STUFF" in it when sitting around for long periods. There are additives to reduce this and if you have fuel sitting in a tank for long periods be sure and research this. I'm interested in adding fuel capacity also and do not wish to discourage this modification. Just throwing something to consider out there. Diesel just has some unique properties from gasoline. Of course now there are issues to consider with gas also.
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" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
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TAC - NJ 18
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06-18-2013, 11:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
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I put it this way, they have to prove that taking one tank down and replacing it with another and using all the original pumping equipment and original fuel hose equipment in the same relative location is any different than cleaning the original tank and reinstalling same. The issue is the dealer does not get all the revenue. You need to ask them one basic question, did you take my money and make a profit on it? Then, they better represent the customer. Otherwise, why did you buy from that dealership?
With all my modifications, I found an independent shop with nine master certified mechanics to work on my truck with no questions asked. A qualified mechanic will keep a good truck running for a long time. The untrained kids at many dealerships are more apt to cause long term damage because of inexperience, lack of any training on diesel trucks and a poor attitude or a know it all attitude.
A dealer with a sour attitude can cancel your warranty out of spite if you report errors in their service to the upstream folks.
I figure they might warranty a light bulb or door handle if it fell off....
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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06-18-2013, 11:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by urnmor
I wanted to add an expanded fuel tank to our F 250 however I was told that if I did it would adversely impact the warranty. So I was wondering if anyone carried extra Diesel fuel in a 2 or 5 gallon container for emergencies.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by urnmor
Switz did you talk to Dodge about your warranty before you added the titan tank. I am being told my dealership not to add it. Maybe I need to go to Ford HQ for their input.
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Hi, by law they cannot cancel your factory warranty, but they can deny a claim if they can prove that the after market item caused the problem. And they can charge you the extra labor if for any reason they have to remove or work around a non-factory part.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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06-23-2013, 07:36 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Ivins
, Utah
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 424
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When my truck was in to the local Ford dealership for it's service last week, I asked the service manager whether an aftermarket replacement tank would affect warranty. He said no, and that they work with a Titan dealer down the street - after the Titan dealer installs the tank, the truck can be brought into the Ford dealership to get the tank gauge recalibrated. The manager said that a lot of guys are replacing fuel tanks on their trucks, and the dealership might soon start doing the upgrades themselves.
I'm strongly considering putting a 51 gallon replacement tank on, but I respect polariyze's comments about stale fuel. There was one point on last year's summer's southwest trip that I was running on fumes at the end of a leg, I don't want to put myself in that position again.
Aside from that, I put less than 10000 miles on the truck last year, but hopefully that will change in the future
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06-23-2013, 07:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 19' Bambi
mt. Prospect
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I keep a five gallon Yellow plastic diesel container in my van. In 7 years, though, I've only needed it once - in western Ontario while traveling around Lake Superior. As Roger said, diesel will grow an algae that will clog filters, so you have to use it, not store it.
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06-23-2013, 08:33 PM
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Tenkara Fly Angler
1975 31' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Vernon
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
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When we travel, I always keep a 5 gal diesel, a 5 gal gas (for the generator) and an extra propane tank. Never know when you'll ( or someone else) need them. As well, we always top off at every stop.
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1975 Sovereign
"The Silver Bullet"
2013 F350 Super Duty 6.7 Liter Diesel
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06-23-2013, 08:46 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 29' Ambassador
Weatherford
, Texas
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 153
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Spare 10 Gallons
I carry 10 extra gallons. They are a good insurance policy for my forgetfulness nowadays . I have had to use them 3 different times. All three were for stranded motorists (2 rver's and 1 truck driver). I haven't needed them yet, but am always glad they are there.
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06-23-2013, 09:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mopariac
I carry 10 extra gallons. They are a good insurance policy for my forgetfulness nowadays . I have had to use them 3 different times. All three were for stranded motorists (2 rver's and 1 truck driver). I haven't needed them yet, but am always glad they are there.
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Hi, nice set-up; I carry one red 5 gallon gas can in the same area on my trailer.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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06-24-2013, 06:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Berlin
, Maryland
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,787
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My thanks for all who replied. For now I think I will go with the extra five gallon fuel tank. I just don't think I can justify the expense for a replacement tank.
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06-24-2013, 06:38 AM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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As an FYI here FAQ on diesel and some of the issues with storing it.
Aaron
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....so many Airstreams....so little time...
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06-24-2013, 08:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
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If you buy the extra tank through dealership they won't mind it.
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06-24-2013, 08:59 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Here is some stuff I use. Types for motorcycles and diesel and outboards. Also stuff for ally hawl laced fools.
http://mystarbrite.com/startron/
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