View Poll Results: Driving on the shoulder to allow faster trafficto pass
My state allows driving on the shoulder 5 17.24%
My state does not allow driving on the shoulder 19 65.52%
I don't know the law in my state. 5 17.24%
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:30 AM   #15
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People are always on my rear bumper. This was even true when I was driving ambulances and fire engines running lights and siren. In short people are jackasses. I long ago made the decison to be as curtious as I can, leting people get by as easy as possible. The other side of that is I also decided not to 'own" their sence of urgency and being in a rush. It isnt the guy driving the speed limit who is the problem, it is the herd runing hell bent for the horizon.
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Old 06-01-2006, 01:33 PM   #16
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It seems that Oregon and Delaware have the sensible idea. Kind of a "Common Courtesy" thing. Too bad they have to make a law for "Golden Rule" issues.

In Texas, we're blessed with wide shoulders and long fields of view for the most part. It certainly makes moving over all the safer affording plenty of time for trailing vehicles to pass.

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Old 06-01-2006, 01:46 PM   #17
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It's not legal in Missouri.
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:32 PM   #18
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driving to the right of a solid white line......

it is not legal in most states unless expressly POSTED......

the delaware statue says 'turn off' for 5 or more following....
not keep driving to the right of the white line.....

moving right of the white line is LEAVING the roadway...
motorist are not allowed to drive OFF the roadways....

it may be common in texas, but i'm doubtful it is legal unless posted.

show me the statue from texas allowing this....

broken down cars, the police/highway patrol, walkers, bicyclists, roadway workers, farmers and so on, often occupy the area to the right of the solid white line....so driving there when not coming to a stop or merging is pure danger....

pulling over just a little to let folks pass is dangerous too
and invites those passing to try and squeeze by......
usually going across the solid yellow line...also a violation....
take a lane or pull off and stop...


thanks for posting this issue....
but please don't drive on the shoulder, paved or not.

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Old 06-01-2006, 04:47 PM   #19
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The only time I move to the right, not crossing the white line, is when I know it is safe to do so. If the situation changes I move back squarely into the center of the lane.

I try to be courteous because sometimes without Gypsy/Bambi I would like to go faster than 62 mph.
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Old 06-01-2006, 06:20 PM   #20
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I don't see it done often in CA. Our shoulders are typically narrow (or nonexistent). They are frequently littered with debris which would be kicked up at 60 MPH.
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Old 06-01-2006, 06:29 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by 2airishuman
show me the statue from texas allowing this....
Here you go Air.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Transportation Code
Sec. 545.058. DRIVING ON IMPROVED SHOULDER.(a) An operator may drive on an improved shoulder to the right of the main traveled portion of a roadway if that operation is necessary and may be done safely, but only:
(1)to stop, stand, or park;
(2)to accelerate before entering the main traveled
lane of traffic;
(3)to decelerate before making a right turn;
(4)to pass another vehicle that is slowing or stopped
on the main traveled portion of the highway, disabled, or preparing
to make a left turn;
(5)to allow another vehicle traveling faster to pass;
(6)as permitted or required by an official
traffic-control device; or
(7)to avoid a collision.
(b)An operator may drive on an improved shoulder to the
left of the main traveled portion of a divided or limited-access or
controlled-access highway if that operation may be done safely, but
only:
(1)to slow or stop when the vehicle is disabled and
traffic or other circumstances prohibit the safe movement of the
vehicle to the shoulder to the right of the main traveled portion of
the roadway;
(2)as permitted or required by an official
traffic-control device; or
(3)to avoid a collision.
(c)A limitation in this section on driving on an improved
shoulder does not apply to:
(1)an authorized emergency vehicle responding to a
call;
(2)a police patrol; or
(3)a bicycle.
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Old 06-01-2006, 07:13 PM   #22
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BIKING on the shoulder is not wise in GA and FL. I have done over 9,000 miles on my bike (my other passion), and one's best bet is to be BLATANT about it and hope that nobody coming REALLY wants to hit you. The safest place to ride on the shoulder in Georgia, on the interstates, is not legal. I don't mind those who HONK, but several bikers are killed each year by "some other brands" who fail to see a 300 lb touring bicycle plodding along at 12 to 16 mph on the far right side of the road.

Folks in Georgia have an interesting convention. If someone is following closely, move to the left lane to decelerate to turn left (on a two lane road).

Folks in Jacksonville, Florida have no conception of what merging means. They love to wait at the end the on-ramp. I guess that some of them can't hit 90 mph by the end of the ramp. This makes it confusing when they see someone pulling an Airstream in the right lane going 65-mph or so. They think it's an optical illusion, so they wait until the vehicle is 100 ft away, and then they pull out.

I have driven in Boston, where I think the theory is "Dare ya," and traffic signals are only advisory, but I think the WORST drivers I've seen yet are in Jacksonville, Florida.

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Old 06-01-2006, 07:19 PM   #23
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Illegal in Calif..

It is illegal to drive on shoulder in CA, and unwise, as noted above due to litter, soft spots, frequent surprise endings for culverts, etc..

CA does have a "Five cars behind - pull over in turnout and let them pass" rule in motor vehicle code. Only requires you to use turnouts where they exist (temporary wide spot in road), and you can be cited for failure to do so.

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......I have driven in Boston, where I think the theory is "Dare ya," and traffic signals are only advisory, but I think the WORST drivers I've seen yet are in Jacksonville, Florida.

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Here you go Air.
thanks for finding it westfalia.....wow

it is interesting that the wording offers up many of the conditions that might cause one to 'legally' drive on the right or left improved shoulder. it doesn't suggest for what distance or speed.....leaving these issues wide open.
and 'to allow another vehicle traveling faster to pass' suggests that it should not be done when the main lane is open/free of faster traffic...but this is vague too. certainly it is reasonable for merging, exiting and to avoid collisions...

as noted already many cyclist are killed each year by drivers using the shoulder....so too police, patrol and roadway workers...

i've been backed up in hiway traffic for miles,
when someone decides to pull out and pass everyone
by using the shoulder....another dangerous stunt.

this year kansas passed a law
requiring drivers to move to the far left lane
whenever emergency or police vehicles occupy the shoulder....
leaving the right lane vacant.....
they also posted signs
as a public campaign to educate on this new manuver

of course, i also remember when ordering your glass of booze "to go" was legal in montana.....seems they called this a 'whiskey ditch' or 'vodka ditch' or 'whatever ditch'....but a plastic cup'o'booze to go was common....

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Old 06-01-2006, 09:40 PM   #26
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Quite a broad experience there!

2air -

You have quite a broad experience.... in Montana and elsewhere!

Nice dig on the MV code Westfalia...!!!!

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Smile Please don't do it in Michigan...

Interesting thread. I'm glad to see all the info. Amazing the differences from state to state.
Recognizing the intent and the difference between a courtesy pull over and driving/passing on the shoulder...I've seen plenty of Sunday drivers, tractors, and haywagons pull over on 2 lane roads, nobody is gonna complain...that is pull over and stop. Its not fun to have to do.
We've always understood (correct me Michiganders if I'm wrong) that you are to stop when you pull over. Shoulder being considered an emergency lane...Along these lines...
From Michigan's info for Drivers--What Every Driver Must Know (p. 72)
Under pavement markings...
"passing to the right of another vehicle...by crossing a solid white line that marks the edge of the roadway is prohibited, even if the shoulder is paved..."

In fact, to ease the road rage stuff the Michigan State Police now have aggressive driving incident reports online that give as an example of road rage "drove on the shoulder."
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I can appreciate someone pulling over as a courtesy, but I don't consider it safe. In most states, the shoulder is considered to be a BREAKDOWN lane
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