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Old 10-18-2007, 02:26 PM   #57
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Day 21 (10/17/07) – Clam River to Plymouth, MI

It continued to rain all night. I wasn’t looking forward to a hitch-up in the rain, but as the sun came up in the morning the rain stopped. Here’s a few more shots of our campsite in the sunshine—finally.

Today we begin our return south. Our destination today is my sister’s home in Plymouth, MI. We’ll be parking in her driveway through the weekend. The route today was mostly I-75, which is very pretty here in the North Country. We stopped for a break and gas in the town of Frankenmuth, MI. Frankenmuth is a Bavarian town known for it’s fried chicken dinners. Never really thought of fried chicken as Bavarian food. Dinner was waiting for us in Plymouth, so we passed on the chicken. It’s also home to the world’s largest Christmas Shop, Bronner’s Christmas Wonderland, which was on Pat’s list of things to do.

After walking around the Christmas shop for an hour, we gassed up (now at $2.99 a gallon) and continued south. We noticed the stations in the Traverse City area that had been at $2.84 a gallon jump to $2.99 a gallon over night when the price of oil jumped earlier in the week. We arrived in the suburban Detroit area at rush hour, which made for an interesting pull in the traffic, but arrived with no incident.

After setting up Daisy in the drive, we returned and hour or two later to find the water pump running. It wasn’t pumping any water, unless we opened a tap, but kept running after the flow stopped. This is the first problem we have had with any of Daisy’s systems. Now I have a project for the morning, hope it’s an easy fix.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:55 PM   #58
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After setting up Daisy in the drive, we returned and hour or two later to find the water pump running. It wasn’t pumping any water, unless we opened a tap, but kept running after the flow stopped. This is the first problem we have had with any of Daisy’s systems. Now I have a project for the morning, hope it’s an easy fix.
Hi Randy -- I've did this a couple years ago. I dumped on leaving a campground and was out of water but forgot to turn off the water pump. It would be a different issue if you had water in the tank.

I've read here that running dry causes no problems -- don't know how accurate that is. I'm sure it helps to minimize it. I've had no water pump issues in the two years since my incident took place.

Yah, lovely weather this week .... aaargh!
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:06 PM   #59
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It would be a different issue if you had water in the tank.
There was water in the tank, but I couldn't reproduce the problem this morning. I'll put a full report in today's entry later.

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Come to think of it, we did leave the pump on with water in the tank while on the move a month ago. On stopping the truck (these unnecessary diesels y'know...) I heard the pump running but quickly reached pressure. I figure the sensor has trouble feeling high enough pressure with the tank contents sloshing around. I'm putting myself on personal probation and will take myself offline for 1.675 hours...
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:57 PM   #61
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Day 22 – Maintenance Report

This morning I went back out to Daisy and powered up the water pump—everything seemed to be operating normally. I ran water from all the faucets simultaneously, and then shut them off. The water pump performed perfectly. After looking through my Trailer Life maintenance manual and the Airstream provided book on the water pump, what could have caused this is an empty tank, a leak, air in the line, or a failure of the pressure sensor. The water pump was one of the items on our maintenance list at JC. We thought it seemed loud and we asked them to check the pump for normal operation. They did find it loose in it’s mounting and fixed that, but assured us it was operating normally.

I haven’t found any plumbing leaks on Daisy, the water tank is half full, I’m going to assume the pressure sensor is good for now, so that leaves air in the line as the possibility. It’s a short pipe from the tank to the pump, so maybe the potholes we couldn’t avoid in the Detroit area bounced some air into the pipe that found its way to the pump, and my fussing with the faucets finally ejected it. Even though the pump was warm to the touch when we shut it down last night, the books say you can run it dry without damage, so we’ll hope it’s okay, but watch it as we continue our travels.

Today started with rain showers again, but eventually cleared and warmed up with temperatures in the 70s. After finishing our morning items, we set out to see the fall sights about here, and enjoy the seasonal decorations.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:04 PM   #62
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Just read your whole thread. Very Interesting! We found our water pump running same as yours a while back. Didn't seem to harm anything. We also found the shore water backing filling the water tank. A call to the pump mfgr. resulted in them sending a new check valve. When I went to remove the exisiting one to install the replacement, I found there was not one there.

Had to replace the thermal cutoff on the water heater today, the existing one had gotten wet and was shorting out.

Also have to tighten the bolts on the Equalizer every so often as they work loose.

We haven't been within a 100 miles of an AS dealer in the year we've owned our 23 Safari or the 5 months we've been living/traveling in it, so have had to take care of warrantee items myself.

Question: What's this problem with corrosion? And the installation of beltline trim? I haven't noted anything like that on our trailer.
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:02 AM   #63
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Just read your whole thread. Very Interesting! We found our water pump running same as yours a while back. Didn't seem to harm anything. We also found the shore water backing filling the water tank. A call to the pump mfgr. resulted in them sending a new check valve. When I went to remove the exisiting one to install the replacement, I found there was not one there.

Had to replace the thermal cutoff on the water heater today, the existing one had gotten wet and was shorting out.

Also have to tighten the bolts on the Equalizer every so often as they work loose.

We haven't been within a 100 miles of an AS dealer in the year we've owned our 23 Safari or the 5 months we've been living/traveling in it, so have had to take care of warrantee items myself.

Question: What's this problem with corrosion? And the installation of beltline trim? I haven't noted anything like that on our trailer.
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I was going to ask on the forums if anyone had noticed the shore water filling the tank, because ours is doing it too. I noticed water draining from the tank overflow and pumped some water from the tank. A few hours later it was overflowing again. Looks like we have the same problem. I'll call it in when we get back to Florida.

Thghtening to hitch bolts is part of my morning pre-tow checklist. They do seem to loosten after a day's pull. I also found my awning hold down wheels will loosen too, so add that to your checklist.

My corrosion problem was filiform on the rear beltline at the panel edge on both end caps. At JC, they cleaned that off, resealed, and added the trim to hide the damage. There is a thread here where this is discussed: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ams-31743.html

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Old 10-23-2007, 09:05 AM   #64
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Day 23 – 25, Plymouth, MI Area

Over the weekend we visited with family, and toured about looking for seasonal decorations, local foods, and fall color. We explored the small town of Northville, which is near here. When I was growing up in this area, many, many years ago, this was just a little farming town. Now it’s been gentrified with boutiques, coffee and wine bars, and many good restaurants. We enjoyed a great omelet at Rebecca’s. A small restaurant that specializes in breakfast, then Pat was off to checkout the shops, while I looked for photo ops. Scarecrows seem to be the thing to.

The weather has been very good all weekend with only one small shower on Friday. Saturday and Sunday were perfect fall days. We found some of the best color we have seen so far along Edward Hines Drive, which is a long park that is very popular with cyclists and walkers. It runs for miles here in the suburbs of Detroit.
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:07 AM   #65
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Day 26 (10/22/07) – Plymouth, MI to Berera, KY

Today we begin our journey southward to Faluminum and home. A great sunny start to the day brought out the fall color in the early morning light. Here’s a couple shots of Daisy parking place and the “graveyard” next door.

The pull south on I-75 was typical I-75 with rough pavement, lots of trucks, bits of construction and congestion in the cities. The roughest spots were in Michigan and near the cities in Ohio. Ohio slows the trucks down to 55 mph and there were troopers enforcing that. At one point in Ohio, we came upon what seemed like a five-mile “train” of trucks all in the right lane. We joined the auto traffic in the left lane and eventually got around the train.

The color in Ohio was very good. All the trees that were green when we passed through here on our way north are now putting on their fall show. The weather remained sunny until we approached Dayton, where clouds began to move in. By Cincinnati, rain started. We drove through northern Kentucky in heavy downpours. By Lexington, we started looking for a spot for the night, and pulled in to Walnut Meadow RV Park at Berera, KY. This is Good Sam park just off the highway with gravel, but level sites and full hook-ups for $23.00. The rain stopped just long enough for us to park and set-up. Looks like a wet night ahead.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:47 PM   #66
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Berea is a very nice part of KY. I am so glad they are finally getting rain (my parents are in Frankfort). I am sorry it has to be on your trip though. That area is so pretty it is a shame to miss seeing it fully.

See you shortly.
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Day 27 – Berera, KY to Tellico Plains, TN

The rain continued this morning and all day. We did have some breaks in the rain, but not during our hitch-up this morning. Here’s a picture of our site before we started disconnecting. If you look closely, you’ll see raindrops. We didn’t get a chance to visit Berera, but we heard it is a nice town and has a Kentucky crafts center. That’s probably okay because we are running out of room in the truck.

We stopped for lunch at a historic place in Corbin, KY, the Sanders Café, otherwise known as the birthplace of Kentucky Fried Chicken. The Café is restored to where it was in the 50s before it closed because of I-75 bypassing the town, and Col Sanders taking his recipe on the road and creating the KFC chain of restaurants. The pictures are of the café and the kitchen. We ate a snack pack, and then resumed our travels south.

We only had 200 miles to go today, which was just enough considering the weather. Hoke didn’t have any trouble bringing Daisy over the I-75 grades that begin at the KY/TN border. The transmission downshifted on me a couple of times on the steeper grades, but I was mostly able to manage the shifts to not heat-up the transmission. Before we head out west next summer, I’m going to install a transmission temperature gauge, so I can watch it more closely. The scenery looked like it would have been really pretty with lots of color, if it hadn’t been raining buckets. Hope the Atlanta, GA area is getting some of this.

We’re now parked at Pat’s brothers house in Tellico Plains. We’ll be here to Friday when we go to Faluminum. I’ll take a picture when it stops raining.
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:32 AM   #68
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Day 28 – Tennessee Border Towns

The rain stopped around noon, and we set out to explore the area. A short drive south from Tellico Plains over a twisty TN route 68 (that we’ll be traveling on Friday with Daisy in tow) you come to the artist village of Coker Creek. There are several interesting galleries here displaying some very attractive items from photography, to woodwork, to handmade jewelry. The fall color here is just beginning to show due to the drought.

We also discovered the Tennessee Valley Railroad in the process of switching the engine from one end of the train to the other. The train takes riders over the Hiawassee Loop, where the track circles back over itself as the train climbs a mountain. There are only three places in the US where this happens. We inquired as to how far the loop was from where we were watching the switching operations, thinking it might make a nice hike. The loop was over five miles away and pretty much inaccessible other than by walking the tracks, so we abandoned that idea and drove on.

Before you get to the TN/GA border, you come to Ducktown, TN. Ducktown was an active copper mining town back in the 1800s and became a textbook example of the effects of acid rain. They used the wood from the trees to fire the copper smelters and the sulfur dioxide that was emitted in the process killed the remaining vegetation. This left a huge scar that as late as 10 years ago was visible from space. As you can see in this view looking over a caved in mine shaft, reforestation is working. There is a nice little museum here at this overlook that is worth the $4.00 price of admission.

Sitting right on the TN/GA border are the towns of Copper Hill, TN and McCaysville, GA. You can stand on the blue line that divides the states, and as you can see it even goes right through some of the buildings.
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Day 29 – Oak Ridge, TN

Today we traveled north from Tellico Plains to Oak Ridge, TN. Oak Ridge was the once secret city where the made the fissionable material for the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan to end World War II. As an example of the secrecy, the high school football team was only allowed to play away games, and the players were identified only by there numbers, no names. The city was declassified and opened to the public in 1949. There many buildings that remain from the war-time era, including the guard towers at the then city entrances. Oak Ridge National Laboratories now occupy some of the WWII facilities.

There is a nice museum and science center in Oak Ridge, and at the museum you can purchase a CD or tape for a driving tour of the city. We didn’t have time for both, so we elected to take the driving tour and put the museum on or list of things to do next time. On the tour, you go by the International Friendship Bell that was given to Oak Ridge by Japan as an expression of hope for everlasting peace. The sign says to ring the bell in honor of those who served in WWII. Our interesting discovery is that you can’t hear the bell when you’re inside it.

The tour ends at an overlook of the K-25 plant that was one of the main WWII facilities. The building is a U-shape with each side of the U over a half mile long. It’s hard to see this from the overlook (the yellowish face in the center of the photo is the top of one side of the U), but there is a small museum annex there with a video and informative displays.

Tomorrow we move south to Hiawassee, GA and Faluminum, only about 80 miles from here. I probably won’t have Internet service again until we leave there on Sunday for the final two days of our trip.
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your trip would make a really great book! i love the trains.
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