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Old 06-25-2009, 11:17 AM   #71
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There are a lot of experiences being shared that are basically "bad neighbor" stories. You could replace the campfire with loud music, drunken shouting matches, screaming kids, running toys into your vehicles, or barking dogs. Critiquing drinking, kids and dogs is harder here than campfires though.

On our last trip someone had their car alarm going off for probably a total 4 hours, 10-20 minutes at a time, over 3 days. After the first day of this, several people in the park would just hit the panic button on their own car alarm key fob to honk back. I'm sure he had lots of suggestions for various ways to fix it! But the honking continued.

Same trip, someone had a storage compartment door that sounded like nails on a chalk board run through a loud speaker (unbelievably loud for some reason). They would open this thing every hour, real slow. I had my can of dry lube spray out on the picnic table, but he wasn't even near us and I never could figure out who it was to offer to quite the squeak. Too be honest, I might have not asked for permission and just put a good long spray right down the hinge when they were out.

I'm told even the garbage trucks and street sweepers are inconsiderate to the parking lot boondockers. Who makes that kind of noise at 3am? Jerks.

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Old 06-25-2009, 11:23 AM   #72
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Critiquing drinking, kids and dogs is harder here than campfires though.
Oh I don't know - I could carry on for a while...

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Old 06-25-2009, 11:48 AM   #73
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Originally Posted by digger bear View Post
The only time I really have a problem with it is when someone throws in one of those copper tubes stuffed with God knows what to get colors. They are pretty but - I am scared to death to know what metals and plastic are being inhaled into our systems.
Garden hose works great in side the copper pipe, air hose will also work. A nice medium heat fire works best, colors last the longest. If the fire is too hot the colors do not last but a couple of minutes. I have yet to get a bad smell off a fire using the copper and garden hose.

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Old 06-25-2009, 12:00 PM   #74
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I enjoy a campfire now and again, but most campgrounds have their sites placed too close together for campfires not to bother the neighbor toward which all the smoke blows from those stinky, wet-wood fires. And, some campgrounds that sit in a small valley...ugh...the smoke from morning fires just sits there all day. One thing I enjoy about camping is breathing some fresh air!

I guess if I had to vote one way or another, I would vote no to campfires
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:42 PM   #75
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We like campfires if the wood used is dry and does not create much smoke and conditions are good for fires. We think some people burn any kind of wet wood or garbage. One camping trip to Davis Mountains State Park at Thanksgiving time there was almost no air moving and most of the campers thought they needed to have a campfire. Guess what, with the campground being in a valley, the smoke was terrible making eyes burn and there was no way to get away from it. If campers would only consider other campers! That is the problem with some campers being incosiderate of others who just want to go out to a park and enjoy fresh air and nature. We may not go back to that park at that time of year again. We have camped there at other times and really enjoyed the park.

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Old 06-25-2009, 06:13 PM   #76
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Smile maybe they could make a smoke free/fire free section?

Lots of great discussion.

Personally, I can't stand trash burning at campsites. Its awfully inconsiderate.

Seems like they could make a fire free section to accomodate everyone. Maybe put the sites with lousy campfire set ups there--many are too close for comfort to the neighboring site.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:13 PM   #77
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Camping is not for everyone, many should stay home inside
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:14 PM   #78
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To date, we like "real campfires". But do like some of the other options posted here. The portable propane fire pit and/or duraflame logs might work also. Since we do not have the propane pit, don't know if it will spread the same heat as a wood fire does. Any comments???
Also the last two trips to WA state did not allow pit wood fires, so wonder if you could have the duraflame logs in a little Weber BBQ???
Don't care for the smoke much
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:29 AM   #79
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styrofoam makes a good fire starter, Just make sure the wind is blowing away from your trailer, that black smoke stinks

I think it you use dry wood, and keep it a reasonable size it shouldn't smoke or bother others..

I like them and my kids love em....

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Old 06-26-2009, 05:29 AM   #80
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Propane Fire Pit Heat?

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Since we do not have the propane pit, don't know if it will spread the same heat as a wood fire does. Any comments???
Also the last two trips to WA state did not allow pit wood fires, so wonder if you could have the duraflame logs in a little Weber BBQ???
The propane fire pits do generate heat. The fire pits I've seen (we own one and we've seen others) generate the equivalent of a small fire and consequently make a small amount of heat. The "logs" in our fire pit become hot similar to a gas fireplace in your house and that helps radiate heat to persons gathered around the fire pit. After turning the propane off you can still feel heat radiated from the "logs."

A propane fire pit is certainly not the same as a campfire. But it also has a number of advantages that make it appealing to me. A friend of ours (Sugarfoot on the forums) purchased a product that I think is called Volcano (send her a PM) and she likes it. It's not exactly a fire pit, it's not exactly a campstove - it's a little of both.

Fire pits can be used where Duraflame and campfires cannot be used since they don't generate sparks or other flying embers.

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Old 06-26-2009, 06:29 AM   #81
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At our permanent site at Penn Wood we installed a Napoleon Patioflame propane fireplace and love it. It throws enough heat to keep your toes warm on a spring and fall evening. When we want a real fire we head on down to the community fire ring and have a real wood fire there.

When we pull the '06 somewhere we usually take a small amount to have a real campfire in the evenings.

Here is the propane fireplace, note the Mrs. still has a blanket wrapped around her legs...

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Old 04-11-2010, 11:36 PM   #83
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We love our "classic" Campfire-in-a-can, which burns wood, charcoal or composite logs. Actually, we BBQ/cook over charcoal in it, then use the still-hot coals to quick-start a campfire in it as well. Great dual-use fireplace that complies with all metal-contained, off-the-ground fire regulations in the places we boondock. The photos were taken in Anza-Borrego Desert State Park (CA), where free off-road camping is the rule, not the exception.
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:06 PM   #84
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I'll take a smoky campfire over a yapping dog any day.

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