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Old 09-06-2011, 09:25 PM   #155
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We rarely build a fire. Really, only if we have something to cook which would be better over an open flame. Sitting around a fire with the smoke blowing in your eyes is not our idea of a good time. I'd rather sit out with a small lantern and watch the stars. We avoid any campground where the sites are too close together, though, so that if our neighbors have fires it doesn't bother us. Most state parks around us provide plenty of separation, at the price of few or no hook-ups, but it's an acceptable trade to us.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:29 PM   #156
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. We avoid any campground where the sites are too close together, though, so that if our neighbors have fires it doesn't bother us. Most state parks around us provide plenty of separation, at the price of few or no hook-ups, but it's an acceptable trade to us.
As it is for us, usually. The trouble this last weekend was that it was Labour Day, about which we'd forgotten, so we couldn't get in at any of the Provincial Parks (they are booked months ahead, apparently ). That's probably why I'd not really noticed the camp fire thing before now.

We have another KOA weekend coming up but hopefully it won't be so busy!
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:39 PM   #157
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Not a thing wrong with campfires!

Remember, as I learned in Boy Scouts, and when I saw a white box burn, a bigger hot fire will burn clean. You "trash burners" that do not believe in big heat will continue to upset the rest of our world with your smug pots. Those that do not like fire may stay in there closed door world and watch the tube. The rest of us, that believe in a social talk with fellow Airstreamers, and Argosy folk too, will have a fire. Besides, were else will you throw you cigarette butts and beer cans? Long live FIRE, WHEELS, CAVEMEN & AIRSTREAMERS! And the Green Bay Packers too.
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:42 AM   #158
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i got a little issue with telling people THEY can stay inside while WE stay outside and pollute the planet. How bout turning that around so that those who like to breathe smoke can stay in THEIR closed door world and puff away while patting themselves on the back about how superior and social they are, while the rest of us, that like to breathe air without the pollution, and like the solitude of getting away from groups of backslapping, smoking socialites, can walk around outside where the clean air is? Want an open fire filling the air with carbon particles and carcinogens? put a wood stove in the trailer.
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Do it the right way

To throw fuel on what Shane and Jim & Mitzi stated, dry wood and building it so it burns well is important in keeping the smoke at a minimum. I like the social aspect of "gathering around the campfire."

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Old 09-07-2011, 10:59 AM   #161
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A lot of people keep saying that if you burn dry wood, you won't get as much smoke. That's true. However, with wood restrictions in many states, you can't bring any firewood into a government (us) owned campground, to protect the forests from infestation. So, you have to take what they sell, which usually is not seasoned hardwood. so, you get pine, cut that year, with predictable results. Private campgrounds may be different, but there you often have the congestion issue.
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This is pretty funny, overall. Guess we can hook up the TV exhaust pipes to the complainers. No one is exempt.
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:16 PM   #163
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We rarely build a fire. Really, only if we have something to cook which would be better over an open flame.
I challenge you to find even one food item that would not be better when prepared over an open flame! I spent 4 hours the other weekend slaving over pork braised in chile verde after fire roasting the peppers and tomatillos for that as well. Sorry, but there's nothing you can do in an oven to compete with that!

Also to the person who mentioned not being able to bring in dry wood: try drying out your wood near the fire once it is started (admittedly you'll have to suffer through some smoke at the start) but you can use the metal grate on most fire rings to pre-roast your fire wood, resulting in a smoke-less fire later on, just watch that it doesn't get hot enough for them to catch on fire before their time!

It seems pretty unreasonable to expect that a tent-camper shouldn't be allowed to have a camp-fire! Most complaints seem to indicate an overcrowded campground, not an issue with the fires! Move from the KOA to a nice secluded campground in a national forest and all your problems will be solved!
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I challenge you to find even one food item that would not be better when prepared over an open flame! I spent 4 hours the other weekend slaving over pork braised in chile verde after fire roasting the peppers and tomatillos for that as well. Sorry, but there's nothing you can do in an oven to compete with that!
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Differing Points of View

It's interesting to read the various comments, and different points of view. I have been on both sides of this discussion. I grew up loving campfires and fireplaces. There was nothing like a warm fireplace on a cold and blustery Winter day. But, several years ago, as I was enjoying our home fireplace during the Christmas holidays.....I came down with what I thought was a severe case of the flu. It turned out to be allergies....and, I am sorry to say, I can't tolerate any type of smoke now. I would love to enjoy a nice campfire while camping, but I have to keep my distance.......and, hope that my neighbors don't create too much smoke. On one occasion, in a crowded Pigeon Forge campground, we returned to find that our neighbor had built a fire within two feet of our Airstream (which had open windows). To make matters worse, he was burning pressure-treated lumber he had brought from home (can you say toxic fumes). I thought we were going to be forced to leave, but I had a discussion with him about the closeness of the fire, and managed to survive a very uncomfortable night.

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In all my years of camping, I would have never thought such a debate would occur. It's a sure sign of how the world and times are changing ... and how there's no pleasing everyone.

We have a campfire when it's allowed, if there's a ring, if there's no ban. We expect other campers to do likewise, keeping warm outside is part and parcel of the experience and getting back to basics, waiting for the stars to come into view (they appear after the sun sets and the air becomes chilly) ... to hear the banter from other camps lightens the soul and if the air outside gets smokey, we close our own door, but stay by the fire until quiet time and it's small enough to extinguish.

If someone close to our campsite is having difficulty starting or keeping a fire lit - more often we wander over and see if we can lend a hand or a dry piece of wood.


I guess being considerate depends on which side of the fence you're looking over ... and who you think should be.
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I challenge you to find even one food item that would not be better when prepared over an open flame!
A margarita. One of the basic food groups.
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In all my years of camping, I would have never thought such a debate would occur. It's a sure sign of how the world and times are changing ... and how there's no pleasing everyone.

We have a campfire when it's allowed, if there's a ring, if there's no ban. We expect other campers to do likewise, keeping warm outside is part and parcel of the experience and getting back to basics, waiting for the stars to come into view (they appear after the sun sets and the air becomes chilly) ... to hear the banter from other camps lightens the soul and if the air outside gets smokey, we close our own door, but stay by the fire until quiet time and it's small enough to extinguish.

If someone close to our campsite is having difficulty starting or keeping a fire lit - more often we wander over and see if we can lend a hand or a dry piece of wood.


I guess being considerate depends on which side of the fence you're looking over ... and who you think should be.
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