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Old 09-03-2010, 06:01 AM   #127
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Kind of like kids and dogs?

I like my campfire... I'm not real crazy about yours.

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Old 09-03-2010, 06:58 AM   #128
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I don't mind a good clean burning campfire, what I don't like is the ones that people put green or wet wood on and try to smoke people out or when they go in at night just leave the fire to smolder. But when that happens I just close the windows and they can listen to the a/c running or if there is no 30 amp. they can listen to the generator running.


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Old 09-03-2010, 07:07 AM   #129
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I love a well-built Campfire. Under some conditions NOT SO MUCH. But lately Im have problems after a very large pot luck supper,Even stayin awake long enough to enjoy one. Guess it comes with the territory.
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:42 AM   #130
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Camping isn't camping without a fire, that's one of the best things about it, get set up, get the camp fire going, and crack open a beer.
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Old 09-03-2010, 09:08 AM   #131
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Originally Posted by Streamer Dan View Post
Camping isn't camping without a fire, that's one of the best things about it, get set up, get the camp fire going, and crack open a beer.
I agree with your statement.

However, In my personal book of definitions, camping isn't camping when you take a small house with most of the amenities of home out into the woods. It is RVing or perhaps staying in a mobile cabin.

I spent the first 50 years of my life in the Seattle area. I did a lot of camping both with my family and with BSA. We built a small fire to cook our food and to keep warm when it was chilly. We weren't plugged into electricity and the only running water was in the creek. Our fires didn't bother anyone, because there was usually no one near enough to bother, and if there was, they had a fire for the same reasons. By the way, camping is still available, but one may have to use their feet to get there.

I never refer to what we do when we taking our trailer out as camping, anymore than I would refer to going somewhere to stay in a resort as camping. We don't go camping in the mountains, we take our trailer to the mountains.

So if one feels it is necessary to have a campfire, to convince oneself that they are camping, they should at least have consideration for their neighbors 20 feet or so away and invest in a portable propane fire pit.

The same principle applies to charcoal grilling and using lighter fluid to start. Its only upside is that it doesn't last as long. Once again the considerate solution is to use a gas grill.

It is not just rumor, it is fact, that breathing smoke and the other products of wood combustion is detrimental to your health. Just ask anyone who lives in Moscow.

Why does one party in an RV park have more right to their smokey campfire than those surrounding them have the right to breath smoke free air.

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Old 09-03-2010, 10:19 AM   #132
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We've had to leave camping because of being downwind on a 100 degree day from folks who "needed" a campfire, then drove off and left it smoldering.

Saw an ad for a fake cigarette recently--"lights" up and you blow some sort of non-smoke vapor, and the tip glows. Maybe someone could invent a fake campfire.
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:54 AM   #133
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There's nothing better than a campfire reflecting on a polished Airstream
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:27 PM   #134
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Really? Taking a campfire out of camping is like taking Mickey Mouse out of Disneyland! I imagine the people that complain about campfires, smoke, etc. also complain about everything else!!!
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:54 PM   #135
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Hello... We don't mind campfires only when they are smoldering 15 ft from our trailer and we have to close up all the windows. When we bought our present Argosy the screens were so black with smoke from campfires that we had all the windows redone. The little red campfire from CW is wonderful...
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:55 PM   #136
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I hate it when the guy in front of me at a football game jumps out of his seat everytime there's a big play and I hate it that the neighbors dog barks everytime my other neighbor lets his cat out and I really hate it when the car in front of me at an intersection wants to go left and holds me up - but I suppose if I'm gonna go to the game or live in a neighborhood or drive a car I ought to expect those thing...
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:25 PM   #137
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WOW, sooo many good point of veiws in this thread. So many different situations. Just have consideration for others if you have a fire.
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:06 PM   #138
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red necks and plastic forks

yes i agree--i spent a weekend on the oregon coast and you would have thought you were in a freaking forest fire. then to boot--we got the added bonus of toxic fumes from some rednecks throwing there plastic ware in their fires. i didn't sleep half the night due to the obnoxius fumes. i don't know what the answer is as i like to have the kids cook dogs and smores on the fire--but dry wood and common sense sure would help. cheers--ted
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:58 PM   #139
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We are with the dry wood, plus the fire dancer is good also.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:15 PM   #140
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"common sense sure would help" And yet this is clearly the one thing that is missing. I'd be willing to bet a good percentage of those who have stated their bad experiences with neighboring campfires have developed their aversion to them because of the lack of common sense (and courtesy) on the part of those neighbors who insisted on having smoking campfires (because, dang it, I paid for my site so it's my right) in spite of a simple request to either control the smoke by burning a proper fire (dry wood, paying attention to drafts/breezes that might be blowing smoke directly into another camper, etc.) or only burn it for the time you are sitting right there next to it. And so a deep aversion develops. Same with noisy kids, noisy dogs, loud diesel idling. Well, unless you're boondocking, you are not the only one in the campground and certainly not the only one who paid for the lot, and is on vacation hoping to have an enjoyable time. What you have in a campground is a community...everyone on this forum who shares a love and affection for these aluminum tubes can gertainly get the idea of community since we all sought this one out. And part of what makes a community work is sensitivity to others and a cooperative spirit. That gets lost a lot of the time in the "I paid my way, I can do as I please" atitude; which I can definitely state has needlessly and selfishly ruined more than one of my own vacations and likely one or more of yours. No one relishes having to request a neighbor to tone down the noise, quiet the dog, or limit the burning of a smoky fire, but know that when they do it is only because it is having a negative and detrimental effect on their enjoyment of the same space. Common sense and courtesy are all that is asked.

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