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Old 11-12-2018, 10:07 PM   #1
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Diesel #2 Availability in the Midwest

I've heard recently that Diesel #2 availability in the Midwest is somewhat limited and that much of what is sold is either Diesel #1 or contains bio-diesel. Can anyone in the Midwest states comment on this please.

Modern diesel truck are very particular about what goes in their tank. We'd like to know what we're in for if we travel that way.
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#1 diesel has the paraffin removed. It doesn't gel as readily in low temperatures. It has lower energy content (so you will use more by volume). It has lower lubricity. It is often mixed with #2 diesel to match lower ambient temperatures in that area in winter, with the percentages dependent on the expected lowest temperature. A small percentage mixed in with #2 is simply termed a winter blend of #2.

You will generally find #2 everywhere. It may or may not have biodiesel added to it depending on the local laws, supplier, etc.
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^^Correct in my area all Diesel contains biotheres only 1 station north of Indianapolis that gives a choice of non bio, Subsequently I put additives in every time I fill to maintain lube of the fuel
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We country folks in the midwest can afford “modern diesel trucks”.

And surprisingly, we can buy fuel to operate them on here, too.



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Yep - you will be fine. Like any diesel truck make sure you change the fuel filter per the manufacturer's schedule.

A shot of Stanadyne additive and extra filtration for my truck. The injectors are much quieter with the additive.
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I've heard recently that Diesel #2 availability in the Midwest is somewhat limited and that much of what is sold is either Diesel #1 or contains bio-diesel. Can anyone in the Midwest states comment on this please.



Modern diesel truck are very particular about what goes in their tank. We'd like to know what we're in for if we travel that way.


#2 ULSD is available at all stations w/Diesel.

When #1 is added for winter blend, often a lubricity additive is added to the fuel at the plant.

I have seen bio at the really big truck stops.

You may (doubt it) if wandering in very rural areas see #1 at a pump but, that is off road / machinery fuel only and says so. Read the pump.

You will have no issues finding fuel.
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:36 AM   #7
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My truck Manuel says no bio over 10% so when traveling I always look for the #2. I've noticed that many Flying J's, Pilot, Love amount others are slowly switching to bio 20% so finding # 2 can sometimes be a challenge but not impossible. This past spring we did a cross county trip without fuel issues, Texas along much of I-10 had only bio but it was just 5% so no problem.
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#1 diesel has the paraffin removed. It doesn't gel as readily in low temperatures. It has lower energy content (so you will use more by volume). It has lower lubricity. It is often mixed with #2 diesel to match lower ambient temperatures in that area in winter, with the percentages dependent on the expected lowest temperature. A small percentage mixed in with #2 is simply termed a winter blend of #2.

You will generally find #2 everywhere. It may or may not have biodiesel added to it depending on the local laws, supplier, etc.
......very little paraffin in the low sulfur fuel....
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We have a 2011 Dodge Ram diesel with over 100,000 miles. Most of them towing. I never have worried about whether fuel has bio or not. I just look for stations that sell a lot of fuel. Fresh fuel works best for me.
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I've heard recently that Diesel #2 availability in the Midwest is somewhat limited and that much of what is sold is either Diesel #1 or contains bio-diesel. Can anyone in the Midwest states comment on this please.

Modern diesel truck are very particular about what goes in their tank. We'd like to know what we're in for if we travel that way.
Not to be testy but !
Have you ever been east of the Sierras ?
Not only do we have every kind of Diesel Fuel available much of it is refined and distributed from here.
We also have Modern Diesel Trucks, flushing toilets running hot and cold water.
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In Minnesota (in the summer) , state law requires B20 biodiesel. I am sure it would work fine in my truck but it is still under warranty and Cummins says no greater than B10. So, kind of a conundrum. Illinois also presents a challenge as most stations are sell ing biodiesel blends.

Pilot and Flying J (at most locations) placard the pumps for B20 even though it may well be pure dinosaur. No way to tell.
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......very little paraffin in the low sulfur fuel...
ULSD continues to have paraffin. It has less than higher sulphur diesel due to the refining process, but it is still there, and because the refining process changes the size of the wax crystals, there are more issues with gelling at low temperatures than previously. If there was very little paraffin there wouldn’t be the same low temperature issues.
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You may (doubt it) if wandering in very rural areas see #1 at a pump but, that is off road / machinery fuel only and says so. Read the pump.
Wouldn’t that be more likely to signify off road (marked) diesel than anything else?

Where I worked years ago we sold #2 and #1 (aka kerosene) for off road equipment use, depending on ambient temperatures, and both could be dyed. The dye was just about the road tax, not about #1 vs #2.

Do some rural stations carry two grades of marked fuel?
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I've heard recently that Diesel #2 availability in the Midwest is somewhat limited and that much of what is sold is either Diesel #1 or contains bio-diesel. Can anyone in the Midwest states comment on this please.

Modern diesel truck are very particular about what goes in their tank. We'd like to know what we're in for if we travel that way.
I have a 2018 Duramax and have no problem with any of the fuel anywhere in MN
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