Diesel #2 Availability in the Midwest

[tjdonahoe]

Originally Posted by jcl

ULSD continues to have paraffin. It has less than higher sulphur diesel due to the refining process, but it is still there, and because the refining process changes the size of the wax crystals, there are more issues with gelling at low temperatures than previously. If there was very little paraffin there wouldn’t be the same low temperature issues.

.....back in the late 60’s thru 1980’s..I have had fuel jel at low 20’s in my truck...after the ulsd..my cat engine has used over 275,000 gals of fuel and never a problem..the fuel is so much better now than 35 years ago.. and it is taken better care of.......I did run straight 2 one day and it was 15 degrees when I left and up north it was - 25 and no problems....before it gets cold the stations here blend it now..20-40 percent #1....you don’t see the trucks sitting along the road jelled up like they did years ago....also the new engines do return more fuel and it is a lot warmer

[DBinSD]

Originally Posted by jcl

Wouldn’t that be more likely to signify off road (marked) diesel than anything else?

Where I worked years ago we sold #2 and #1 (aka kerosene) for off road equipment use, depending on ambient temperatures, and both could be dyed. The dye was just about the road tax, not about #1 vs #2.

Do some rural stations carry two grades of marked fuel?

Yes (very few anymore) as I mentioned off-road/ machine and I left out Home heating fuel. There are still people that try and drive with none dyed fuel on the roads.

#1 can also be “jet” in certain areas.

You are correct, the dye is about taxation and has nothing to do with performance.

[WilburL]

I recently traveled west to east and then back west had no trouble anywhere finding good diesel. The ONLY tricky thing was some pump handles in east are green so be careful!

[Larry C]

[QUOTE=jdalrymple;2179306]We country folks in the midwest can afford “modern diesel trucks”.

And surprisingly, we can buy fuel to operate them on here, too.



Regards,


JD[/QUOTE



WOW!

[xyzabe]

You do realize all diesel is bio, no matter the source, as is all petroleum (gas, diesel, kerosene, etc). Just it's isn't marked that way unless you are using McDonald's fry grease.

[mythbuster88]

Originally Posted by WilburL

I recently traveled west to east and then back west had no trouble anywhere finding good diesel. The ONLY tricky thing was some pump handles in east are green so be careful!

Thats the truth.
I had the green handle in my hand ready to pump and noticed something or other a bit off...

[wimpy]

Originally Posted by xyzabe

You do realize all diesel is bio,

Good friend owns a company which polishes diesel. They empty tanks and remove the sludge, crud, water...all contaminants. They are servicing trucking companies, state DOT facilities, city DOTs, truck stops, anyone who has diesel tanks. He tells me 5% bio is now added at the tank farms to ALL diesel.

[Bill M.]

That was my question. If it says "Diesel #2" on the pump how much bio diesel can be in it?

I mean how much "recently made" bio is added.

[carl2591]

yes that is very true. green handle usually!! diesel.. at least in my area east coast, what color is used out west?? guess you need to make sure and pay attention to the label on pump more than the color handle. Wish that was standard.. green diesel, yellow e-85 gas, black handles for everything else.

Originally Posted by WilburL

I recently traveled west to east and then back west had no trouble anywhere finding good diesel. The ONLY tricky thing was some pump handles in east are green so be careful!

[Overstreet]

Originally Posted by carl2591

yes that is very true. green handle usually!! diesel.. at least in my area east coast, what color is used out west?? guess you need to make sure and pay attention to the label on pump more than the color handle. Wish that was standard.. green diesel, yellow e-85 gas, black handles for everything else.

BP stations are often all handles green. Pay attention to the labeling.

[jcl]

Originally Posted by Overstreet

BP stations are often all handles green. Pay attention to the labeling.

BP is British. The UK standard is green for unleaded, black for diesel. They actually have a standard, unlike North America.

I often see yellow nozzles for diesel here, as we don’t have E85, which seems to be dispensed from yellow nozzles in the US.

I find that usually nozzle colours are matched to the marketing/branding colours on the pump. Agree on the need to pay attention to the labelling.

[80Ram]

Plenty of #2 diesel here in SE Missouri. Currently 2.94 a gal.
Premium diesel 3.09 gal.

[Riva]

Feese oil in Minooka has a single pump of #2 clear available only when they are open.
Woodmans in N Aurora.
Mijer food stores
The Petro - Shell station in Effingham
The Walmart gas station in Rockton

[BigSxyWhtGuy]

Originally Posted by jcl

BP is British. The UK standard is green for unleaded, black for diesel. They actually have a standard, unlike North America.

Ummm. I’m pretty sure everyone in the states is green for diesel with red for gas. BP being British is the only one that I have seen that doesn’t follow this standard. Nozzle colors definitely are not standardized, I typically see them completely separate from everything in a stand alone diesel pump who’s button is also typically green.

[xrvr]

That is not the case in florida. Green can be anything, red? , yellow? Here one has to read the pump.

[KK4YZ]

I guess we all just need to learn to read...

[Mollysdad]

Originally Posted by Overstreet

BP stations are often all handles green. Pay attention to the labeling.

10-4.
I almost put 80 gallons of gas in my MH's diesel tank doing that. I was saved by blind luck, the pump's card reader had a problem, and while I messed with it, I said, "Holy ****, Batman!"