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Old 10-25-2002, 09:28 PM   #15
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Old 10-26-2002, 03:53 AM   #16
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Okay..I've heard enough...lol

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There are some strong feelings out there about the CCC.

I've read everyone's comments. Good/bad, what have you.

This is my take.. Since I got started late in this hobby, I figured I had alot of catching up to do. So, I listen and, read alot~!!
The gentleman that I bought my unit from, told me about Coast to Coast and, said it might be something that you might find worthwhile. It has proven to be both good and bad. Depends on how you look at it. (half glass of water concept applies here)
I won't go into all the requirements as most of you already know them.
My first CCC 'home-port' or timeshare, was won in a contest. I looked at it this way. It was free, given that I acquired it without spending thousands for it. The transfer fee was paid as part of the prize. I did pay the first year's dues upfront. (89$)BIG DEAL~!!
Since this was also a charter membership, my fees are locked in at that rate too. The location is on the West coast, which means, I never have to worry abt the 125 mile restriction~ So, what does this do for me? It gets me into CCC for almost no monies except for the cost of my annual membership in CCC, which is tied to my membership in my homeport on the West coast. The total for both is again, no big deal. I've ordered the coupons for use during the vacation travel and, as a result, have met some very nice people where ever I've stayed~ Not once have I've ever been turned away from a CC park..Not even when I showed up with no advance reservations. I can honestly say, I've had a restful stay and, in several cases, gone out of my way to revisit.
Three summers ago, we stayed at a 5 STAR resort in Sandbridge, Virginia ...Lov'd it~!! We later stayed at a CCC just down the road from it and, felt drawn to it so much so, we begin to inquire abt buying into it. Prices were steep in some cases..Felt like maybe, we'd just end up being "guest". As luck would have it, a titled share become available to us. Here's what happened..
The couple had bought into this resort back in the early 80's, paid over 12k for their timeshare and, the couple used it for many years worth of camping. The husband finally greww ill and, died. His wife continues to use it and, upon her death, it's passed on to her daughters. Now this is where I come. Both daughters are now grown, married and living in different parts of this great country of ours..They wanted to sell it. Since neither of us really knew what the value of the ownership was..I was asked to make an offer. I did and, both daughters accepted. I paid the daughters for the title. The papers were turned over to my lawyer, who filed the papers for me and, now it's recorded in the city of Virginia Beach's property book. I paid the lawyer's fee, the transfer fee, the money to the daughter's and, lastly after all of that, I now pay my annual dues to the 'Owner's Assoc.' that I'm now a part of. My annual dues covers my share of the resort's taxs, the expense to run the place, salaries, etc. This comes out to be just under 400$ a year. In return, I get all the rights as a member of my owner's assoc. plus, I can stay there for unlimited times each year.
When the time comes for retirement, I figure that I'll be able to stay here, as well as, the place in CA in my travels. Plus, I have the rest of the country to chose..It may be in a CCC system, it may be in the NPS or it might be in KOA..I don't really care..the choices are mine. The main thing is..The ability to have choices.
My goal is to enjoy my time traveling, not to worry abt petty things like I've seen mention on here..Makes one wonder why some even bother to take up camping. Maybe, it's a learning curve that they're going thru..I always say, "experiences that which comes to you in it's fullest and, remember this..these are what memories are built upon. "learn to smile."
I have also listen to all this crapping about, how bad A/S, CCC system and, gawd only knows what else. Maybe some of you need to ask yourself, "If this is for you??"
At this point, I'll just say...
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Old 10-28-2002, 09:00 AM   #17
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Fying Cloud, believe me, I tried to make a go of it. At one time I belonged to BOTH CC and RPI [cost about $160/year] [Resort Park Internatioal] but when I saw what they did to their members and treating them as second class citizens. I wanted no part of it! MY dues at the Utah park were $150/year and it was a nice Park! But they hated dogs and there owners!! How would you like to travel 2500 miles and then be ORDERED to take your dog to the campsite and don't leave the site with out it!!!!! You KNOW what my answer to that WAS.Why did I buy into a Park in Utah. The whole concept of this Membership arrangement is to allow all the members to use all the parks. It's baloney!!!! A member should have the same privilages as any member of any park, to travel nationwide and use the parks. Just try to stay one week in a Park. In Bandera Texas I was told that if I wanted to stay more than one day I'd have to sit through their sales pitch and put up a $20 deposit so I wouldn't skip!!!!!!!! I was ALREADY a member of CC&RPI!!! Then I was allowed only 3 days. Couldn't get in a Park near St. George, Utah because the two CC parks nearby were soliciting new members, Iwas told, Real reaon: it's near Zion Park! I stayed in a motel one night and the public Temple View Park for two weeks. So what the hell good was my membership??One week?????????? Who needs that crap???? Between my Home Park dues and CC/RPI $310 and I could not get into those Parks!!! What was the cost to me? I've already paid for CC, and I'm paying again for Temple View[a great park] Just one incident??????? No! one of many. After going to one Dump after another, I finally gave up. These Park owners milk the Park and then don't want to maintain them, and finally go bankrupt. Who pays, YOU DO! CC doesn't care because they want to claim that they have these Parks all over the US to attract members!!!! As far as " is this for you" : I started camping in a tent, then two pop-up's. If I didn't like it then I wouldn't be here now. By the way it's crabing not craping. See I'm smiling. Tom
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Old 10-28-2002, 04:45 PM   #18
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Right now I can show anyone campgroung memberships given away FREE. Yes FREE!!!!!!! Just sign on the bottom line and pay dues till death!!!!! { unless the camp goes bankrupt} How many answered my FREE add and explained that their Camp went belly-up. Would you believe that the Campground can offer a better deal to someone than my for free ad. How?? My dues were $150, the transfer fee was $350. So Joe Camper goes to apply with my free membership, which I have to divulge [the by-laws] to management. They tell Joe they will wave the membership fee or reduce it and Joe's dues will only be $99!!! Now they have you and Joe on the hook!!!!!! Who brought Joe, YOU DID. My best camping days were boondocking on the gulf.....no membership required. Tom
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Old 10-28-2002, 05:40 PM   #19
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Just keep smiling~!

In the quotation below, the usuage of the word 'crapping' was very proper as it fits to a 'T' the meaning in my text.
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I have also listen to all this crapping about, how bad A/S, CCC system and, gawd only knows what else.
crapping has a universal meaning. But, just in case you don't know..This should put a smile on your face.
www.geocities.com/gpsyco_99/crapper-rules.html


I quote your misquote of me..BTW,If you're gonna quote me, plse be correct about it..I didn't say "craping".
you said:
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By the way it's crabing not craping.
crabing means what??
Even in NJ, they use the right spelling for this sport.
www.njfishandwildlife.com/blueclaw.htm
Just so you know..I'm smiling as well.
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Old 10-28-2002, 06:13 PM   #20
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Guess I will stick our 2 cents in - After reading all of the prior posts, As we did on our trip, we will continue to utilize the facilities of US Army Corps of Engineers, National Park Service, Bureau of Land Management, Armed Forces Fam Camps, and when none of those are available, we either do the WAL*MART thing, or look-up a Good Sam - However, we did learn that Good Sam Directory and Trailer Life Directory Listings were never correct on prices - Always $2.00-$5.00 more than the listing in the Book and grossly exaggerated facilites. So we will avoid all these camping deals and clubs, and stick with Uncle Sam.. With a Golden Age Passport, we vever paid more than $6.00 a nite at any of these facilities - No hard time about our dogs, no problems with arrival and departure times, nice clean and serviceable facilities I doubt that we will buy another issue of Good Sam or Trailer-Life due to the lack of credibility in the ads.
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Old 10-28-2002, 06:25 PM   #21
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Thanks for the wonderful report abt your experiences~!

I'll have to look them up on the web..Not sure how much we can plan them in our travels but, it sounds like it's well worth it..

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Old 10-29-2002, 07:07 AM   #22
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Winner, you are a winner. I couldn't have said it better. That's the way to go. As you have read I really tried to make a go of it, and suppored both CC & RPI and my membership. Obviously , if the system was so use full why have they make it so difficult to get out of it???? If I added up the true coast of this experience, I probably paid $50/ night for the privilage, not to mention the aggravation.
Went to Hammond, La on the way to Texas, and tried to get into a CC park there. That park had a special area for CC members, once that was filled, too bad. Go elseware, even if the Park was empty!!! Where? It turned out to be a dump campground nearby because it was late and I had to stop. Why do they do this?? Because their members don't want some guy from Campground, anywhere parked next to them!!! That's their campground. What happened to that reciprocal aggreement???? They don't give a crapping, gee! I learned a new word. Tom
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Old 10-29-2002, 08:06 AM   #23
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What about your 'homeport'? Surely you must be able to use it with no problem??
I gotta tell you that, most of the places that I've visited were "glad" to see the business..(Money)
I know something about "dump"..stayed at one KOA in Mo this past summer that, was the worst place ever..Spider webs all over the place,,I felt like I'd dropped into a 'movie set' for some horror picture...lol
Turns out that this place was for sale and, the owner wasn't too keen on spending any money to keep it up. (it happens)
Again, I'm sorry that your membership hasn't worked out to your advantage.
Seeing as how close you are, maybe we can get you to come down to the campground in Sandbridge, Va. sometime? I've posted pictures of it on another URL..If you like, I can email it to you for your edification.
In any event, keep smiling~
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Flying Cloud, how's that ? Nothing wrong with my Home Park it was clean and well maintained,didn't like dogs though. I paid $650 to join and the dues were $150/ year, OK. That membership was designed for non-residents of Utah. [I live in NJ, where we crab a lot] CC was supposed to pick up the slack during your travels. I thought that I had a choice of many other parks that were just as good. I did use some occasionally. Those parks are now history! None in NJ anymore: never in Vermont, etc. So I started looking for alternate camps; and found many great City,State and Federal Parks as Joe stated. Ever been to the Colorado National Monument, or the Nazchas Trace [a beautiful place] After all the incidents stated above I just didn't want to be bothered anymore! I didn't want to be glued to CC or RPI which are almost duplicates of each other, and there whimsical rules and restrictions! Why should I pay that and pay again because I couldn't use CC parks. Finally got discused and looked at the BYLAWS for the procedure to sell the membership! Thought I was in Hell!! It looks like there are a lot of CC parks but they are few and far between. What happened to CC is exactly what happed to TT. Want to read about the Alliance?? Greed killed what perhaps may have been a good thing, sometime. Don't get me started. Anyway enjoy and smile. Nice discussion. Tom
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I'm currently in the same boat with coast to coast resorts. Life has changed for me and after 23 years in the military, I thought coast to coast resorts was the best thing, but I haven't used it once! I can't get out of it and no one really cares, except where's my money. I'm so stupid!
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I have read this whole thread, and I feel very badly for you. The only thing that I can suggest is to talk to an attorney. I don't know if you can even give it away to somebody that might want it warts and all.

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I'm currently in the same boat with coast to coast resorts. Life has changed for me and after 23 years in the military, I thought coast to coast resorts was the best thing, but I haven't used it once! I can't get out of it and no one really cares, except where's my money. I'm so stupid!
Have you looked into the Army's MWR Path Across America and the Air Force's campsite. Many of them are quite good and others from what I have heard are so so
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Smile CCC Campgrounds and other lies.

Sold my 1971 Airstream and about broke even. Needed just too much time and work to keep it as it should be. Now I own a Truck Camper that I can fit in my garage. Perfect. Dog loves it,wife hates. I'm a lonely boy! Oh well, such is life for this 75 year old recluse. After reading the prior posts I see that the CCC campgrounds and Membership parks are still up to their old tricks: fraud and deception. ( Just like time shares) So, I didn't miss anything. Private campgrounds are getting expensive so they can shove them. Why in the world would anyone want them if they are self contained? Isn't that what camping is all about? Self reliance? Especially Airstreamers! I get a kick out of those 45 ft Class A's with two airconditioners parked next to my wreck. Same air, same park... OK it makes them happy.$$$ No, I'll stick to my rest stops and flying J's. I'm self reliant with no allegiance to anyone... free as a bird. Isn't that what camping is all about? Stay away from Membership parks unless you like to be dangled on a string. King of the road.
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