Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-20-2016, 10:45 PM   #15
Agent 86
 
J. Morgan's Avatar
 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton , Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,365
Images: 11
Many rules have a basis in practicality, but some are ridiculous.

This just is.

Anyway, when I have my dogs in a strange and public place the three young ones will always be on a leash, mainly because I don't want them to be killed by a vehicle, the old one is usually on a leash but not always.

There is a park that we liked to stay at in southern AZ, due to insurance requirements our Boxers and several other breeds were disallowed.

We did not know this until we arrived the last trip there, but they allowed us to stay there for the night. We haven't been back since. Insurance coverage is a good reason for a rule that both the park itself and we are stuck with, so I respect their rule.


Gradiens super tenui glacie.
__________________

__________________
The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......

J. Morgan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2016, 10:49 PM   #16
Agent 86
 
J. Morgan's Avatar
 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton , Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,365
Images: 11
Oh, the story we heard for the breed ban was thar an unleashed small dog ran up to a leashed dog that was being walked and started a dog fight.

The bigger leashed dog unfortunately killed the smaller dog, and the owners sued the park and prevailed.

Go figure.


Gradiens super tenui glacie.
__________________

__________________
The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......

J. Morgan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2016, 11:02 PM   #17
Moderator
 
Stefrobrts's Avatar

 
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,852
Images: 50
Blog Entries: 1
Friends of ours had an encounter at a campground just a week ago while walking her two 30lb dogs, a 100lb german shepherd came strolling up to them off leash, growling, and the owner appears and says something to the tune of 'oh he doesn't like other dogs', and tells his dog over and over 'don't attack!' - well, he attacked! Luckily my friends dogs both survived, but one got tore up and got a visit to the vet. The vet was kind enough to look him over for free, and all he had was a cut on his tongue (I guess it bled a lot and was pretty horrible looking, but the vet said they couldn't really stitch it up). I hope that guy learned a lesson about his dog-hating german shepherd. I can't imagine anything worse to let loose in a crowded campground!

I have never had a problem with any of the rules at the campgrounds we've visited. They are all just about making sure you don't annoy the other campers, who all just want to have a nice weekend too. Most of it is just about being courteous.
__________________
Stephanie




Stefrobrts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2016, 11:08 PM   #18
cwf
Rivet Master
 
cwf's Avatar

 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,714
Images: 2
Rules.... Play nice... Give and earn the respect you expect..

Campgrounds might take a clue from the local theater industry. Turn off the phones or we'll kick your A$$ out!

Have them sign this:
Rule: "all Dogs must be leashed"
Rule 2: "you must obey the rules as you expect your dog to"
Rule 3: "disrespect of any rules and you agree to quietly pack up leave and lose your camping fee"
Rule 4: "tell your buddies we follow the rules here.

Requiring decent behavior of "guests" by campground owners may put them out of business. That is not what we want. Right? I think there may be at least one campground owner on this forum..who might pipe in.

Look around...each sets their own behavior as they want... As a people we are more island builders than bridge builders.

I demand my "right" to shove it in your face. And you must "embrace and celebrate "... Or you will be ostracized. Ahem... Ok.. I will say "no"..It is worth it because it is about my eternal soul. I respect your ability to choose a path for yours.

Seems folks have lost discipline because it "harshes my mellow"... It defies the reality of how the world works...instead some are shocked when we reap the whirlwind.

So, the tiny infractions of "off leash" and campfires are but a whiff of the whirlwind.

How do we change it? Ask the campground owner to enforce the "rules" or Pack up, unplug and go home.... Or camp elsewhere.

I enjoy the company of others... Even Airstreamers!!! But I promise, my rights end where yours begin. I will follow the rules or move on...

I have my dog leashed...
__________________
Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
cwf is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2016, 11:27 PM   #19
Figment of My Imagination
 
Protagonist's Avatar
 
2012 Interstate Coach
Metairie , Louisiana
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 9,089
Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf View Post
But I promise, my rights end where yours begin. I will follow the rules or move on...
Part of the problem lies in the fact that so many people fail to understand the difference between rights and privileges. A right is granted to you by law; an inalienable right by law cannot be taken away from you. A privilege is granted to you by the mutual consent of all interested parties and can be taken away at any time, hopefully but not necessarily for just cause.

At a campground we all have privileges granted to us by the campground owners in exchange for paying our fees and following their rules. But if we fail to uphold our end of the bargain, we have no right to complain about losing our privileges in return. Pity that more RVers don't understand the distinction.
__________________
WBCCI #1105
TAC LA-4

Engineering: Finding complex solutions to simple problems you didn't even know you had.
Protagonist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2016, 11:27 PM   #20
Avion Owner
 
PaulnGina's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol' , USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,773
cwf and I would be great friends if we lived closer to each other!!



Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf View Post
Rules.... Play nice... Give and earn the respect you expect..

Campgrounds might take a clue from the local theater industry. Turn off the phones or we'll kick your A$$ out!

Have them sign this:
Rule: "all Dogs must be leashed"
Rule 2: "you must obey the rules as you expect your dog to"
Rule 3: "disrespect of any rules and you agree to quietly pack up leave and lose your camping fee"
Rule 4: "tell your buddies we follow the rules here.

Requiring decent behavior of "guests" by campground owners may put them out of business. That is not what we want. Right? I think there may be at least one campground owner on this forum..who might pipe in.

Look around...each sets their own behavior as they want... As a people we are more island builders than bridge builders.

I demand my "right" to shove it in your face. And you must "embrace and celebrate "... Or you will be ostracized. Ahem... Ok.. I will say "no"..It is worth it because it is about my eternal soul. I respect your ability to choose a path for yours.

Seems folks have lost discipline because it "harshes my mellow"... It defies the reality of how the world works...instead some are shocked when we reap the whirlwind.

So, the tiny infractions of "off leash" and campfires are but a whiff of the whirlwind.

How do we change it? Ask the campground owner to enforce the "rules" or Pack up, unplug and go home.... Or camp elsewhere.

I enjoy the company of others... Even Airstreamers!!! But I promise, my rights end where yours begin. I will follow the rules or move on...

I have my dog leashed...
__________________
"Every day is a good day.... some are just better than others!"
1987 Avion 34W
PaulnGina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 12:31 AM   #21
Rivet Master
 
ROBERTSUNRUS's Avatar

 
2005 25' Safari
Salem , Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,239
Images: 18
Blog Entries: 51
Hi, there have been many times that campers have been obnoxious, [or breaking the camp ground rules] but it always seems that they do it at night when the office is closed and no way to contact them. The next morning, either the rule breakers have left or we are leaving. [or both] I have learned to just ignore them, or put up with it, and be glad that they don't live in the house next to mine.


Thankfully, on our random trips, we seldom run into these people and we mostly have one nighters, or at the most, stay in one place for about a week. We find most campers to be nice and friendly.
__________________
Bob

2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent"
[ Small Silver Castle ]
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
ROBERTSUNRUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 04:45 AM   #22
Tin Man
 
LY007's Avatar
 
1983 27' Excella
Currently Looking...
Charlottesville , Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 92
If a campground has no control over kids riding ATVs 24 hours a day, I am unlikely to stay there a second time.
__________________
Steve
83 Excella 27
07 Tundra Limited
LY007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 05:11 AM   #23
Rivet Master
 
GettinAway's Avatar
 
2011 23' FB Flying Cloud
Chesterfield , Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 689
I'm generally a rule follower. I don't hesitate to go to the campground host if I have a comment, but I try to do so very carefully. I know I put the host in a stressful situation. (If someone's music or generator is running when it shouldn't be.)
We very rarely have issues with other campers. We've never taken our dog with us, so we don't put up with others letting their dogs run lose.
I'm thinking that as a whole AS campers are probably more courteous to camp next to than most, but that's just an assumption.
I do love campfires, and we've never turned on the TV set in our AS. We are almost always outside..
The private CGs in Missouri, along the public float streams are a disaster. We camped there one weekend with the kids. (Memorial Day wknd) it was all night partying. No rules, no control. I mention it just as a FYI, if you camp in Missouri and you like rules.
__________________
2011 FC 23FB
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
GettinAway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 05:38 AM   #24
Rivet Master
 
Bruce B's Avatar
 
2012 16' International
Jamestown , Rhode Island
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,350
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist View Post
Part of the problem lies in the fact that so many people fail to understand the difference between rights and privileges. A right is granted to you by law; an inalienable right by law cannot be taken away from you. A privilege is granted to you by the mutual consent of all interested parties and can be taken away at any time, hopefully but not necessarily for just cause.

At a campground we all have privileges granted to us by the campground owners in exchange for paying our fees and following their rules. But if we fail to uphold our end of the bargain, we have no right to complain about losing our privileges in return. Pity that more RVers don't understand the distinction.
This is a perfect summation.
Thanks!
Bruce
__________________
Barely getting by, towing our 16' Bambi with our Ram 2500 CTD "Moby"!
Bruce B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 06:17 AM   #25
3 Rivet Member
 
skitique's Avatar

 
1974 Argosy 26
1990 34' Excella
Charleston , South Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 224
Images: 2
Blog Entries: 1
You'd think rules for safety would be a no brainer to follow - right? Let's see the downside could be loss of life...hmmmmm. We just returned from Yellowstone & I really have respect for those park rangers. Here are the safety rules that we saw tourists ignoring.

1. While at hot springs there are signs everywhere that say walk on boardwalk - ground unstable- water is boiling, etc. you get the point. First day we were there in 3 separate occasions people walked from the street around some smaller boiling hot springs to get to the board walk. One lady wasn't paying attention at all & I called out for her not to step into the hot spring as that was her next step. She actually looked annoyed with me.

2. The park has a huge waterfall, the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, & one of the lookout points is on a steep drop off with a 5 ft chain link fence. As we stood talking pictures one man in his twenties climbs over the fence & is hanging on & days to his buddy take my picture. We were in stunned silence.

I don't even know how parks will ever get folks to care about their own safety

Jane
__________________
skitique is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 07:04 AM   #26
cwf
Rivet Master
 
cwf's Avatar

 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,714
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist View Post
Part of the problem lies in the fact that so many people fail to understand the difference between rights and privileges. A right is granted to you by law; an inalienable right by law cannot be taken away from you. A privilege is granted to you by the mutual consent of all interested parties and can be taken away at any time, hopefully but not necessarily for just cause.

At a campground we all have privileges granted to us by the campground owners in exchange for paying our fees and following their rules. But if we fail to uphold our end of the bargain, we have no right to complain about losing our privileges in return. Pity that more RVers don't understand the distinction.
Yes, Sir...
__________________
Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
cwf is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 07:42 AM   #27
Ready-to-Travel
 
pmclemore's Avatar

 
2012 30' International
Walkerton , Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,417
People never start campfires when the wind is blowing into their own trailers.

Pat
__________________
--------------------------------------
Somebody, please, point me to the road.

AIR 3987
TAC VA-2
wbcci 9239 (Re-enlisted 2013)
pmclemore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 07:52 AM   #28
Rivet Slave
 
Rocinante's Avatar

 
2014 27' FB International
Western WA , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,862
Blog Entries: 49
If you're concerned about smoke, stay out of Ohanapecosh campground at Mount Rainier National Park. The campground is in a natural bowl, and an official wood-seller goes around the place every afternoon selling wood for campfires. Then, each evening, everyone lights up a fire. The air is so thick with smoke at night that you'd find cleaner air by sleeping smack in the middle of 5th Avenue in the heart of Manhattan during rush hours.

Campers buy that wood and also forage about in the woods next to their campsite looking for smaller branches to break, chop and burn. The latter violates a whole mess of NP rules, but it doesn't slow them down.

Aside from that, it's a gorgeous and wonderful place to camp. We loved it, but to save our lungs we'll probably not camp there again any time soon.
__________________

__________________
Rocinante is our 2014 International Signature 27FB
(Named for John Steinbeck's camper from "Travels With Charley")


Rocinante is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
iCamp's 20 rules every campground should have iCamp Full-Timing 30 08-12-2014 08:58 PM
Brite Lake Campground, Tehachapi, CA - Very nice & inexpensive campground Phoenix On The Road... 1 12-15-2012 09:19 AM
Help With Campground Hunt - Sundance RV Park And Campground - Coram, MT rebelstand On The Road... 4 08-03-2011 12:18 PM
Why, Why, Why aviontt On The Road... 22 11-20-2003 07:41 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.