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03-22-2014, 03:51 AM
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Rivet Master 
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
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Camper shot dead
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03-22-2014, 04:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
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03-22-2014, 05:09 AM
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Rivet Master 
2012 27' Flying Cloud
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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At the title of your thread, I assumed you were talking about an incident at a KOA or something like that. Amazing how we all process information.
Sad and disturbing situation. I'm making more inferences now after reading the eyewitness account too.
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03-22-2014, 05:18 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 34' International
Toronto
, Ontario
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We had a case here in Toronto this summer where police shot dead a mentally ill young man. At that occasion somebody captured the incident on camera, as a result the officer shooting is now facing a murder trial.
Police officers not being trained effectively to deal with the mentally ill appears to be a common condition.
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03-22-2014, 06:58 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andreasduess
We had a case here in Toronto this summer where police shot dead a mentally ill young man. At that occasion somebody captured the incident on camera, as a result the officer shooting is now facing a murder trial.
Police officers not being trained effectively to deal with the mentally ill appears to be a common condition.
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That has happened here in New Orleans as well. Problem is, as I see it, mental illness is not a visible condition; you can't fault an officer for not knowing that the person is mentally ill and can't understand what's happening. They don't exactly wear a sign around their necks saying "I'm not well; please help me." All the officers can tell is, they're shouting orders at someone who isn't doing what they're told.
As for the officer in question, I think murder is an excessive knee-jerk response; manslaughter would be a more appropriate charge, if charges must be filed at all.
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03-23-2014, 08:45 AM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
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American police have killed over 5000 persons since 1999. Barney Fife would have done a better job in far too many of these cases (thinking of the recent killing where the dead man was in a wheelchair, missing an arm and leg, and "armed" with a pencil), but we have had these agencies turned in to a standing army arrayed against us.
It might be said, the mentally ill you will always have among you. It is not the new thing, only the BS about "officer safety".
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03-23-2014, 08:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
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Wow - this topic is very misleading - I would not call this guy a camper - he was miles from a campground
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03-23-2014, 09:15 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 27' Overlander
Denver
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I agree with Ken.
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03-23-2014, 09:37 AM
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Camper shot dead
In complete agreement. This thread is closed as it really has nothing to do with camping. If other information sheds light that supports that this was a "Camper" related incident we will re-look at opening the thread.
On behalf of the site team.
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