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Old 11-06-2010, 02:10 PM   #15
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Glass is specifically excluded by the warranty. However, a loose, maladjusted latch would be the Company's responsibility.

I could also make an argument poor design causes this style of window to be susceptible to damage and the Company is responsible for that. It then becomes a product liability issue and could be asserted after the warranty runs out. You can expect Airstream would not be too receptive to that argument, so what matters is how far you want to go and how you talk to them. A letter to Thor's president helps in that case.

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Thanks Gene,

I guess I didn't read the fine print.

These windows are all probably breaking from over-hitched too big tow vehicles anyway.

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Old 11-06-2010, 03:32 PM   #16
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Maybe the univolt is bad.

Or a check valve might be sticking.

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Old 11-06-2010, 03:49 PM   #17
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or it could just be a poor design prone to this sort of mishap. Learn to check it before travel and it won't happen again.
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Old 11-06-2010, 05:29 PM   #18
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a misfire of the brain was the one and only cause of my flying window....most of them do no spontaneouly fly on their own

not latched is a sure cause of achieving orbit......
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PVC pipe

It's surprisingly easy to break in to those big windows. I had to do it once.

Someone suggested that to protect the interior, you could slip a piece of PVC pipe over the ends of the latches.... I suppose you'd do that by half opening both, then inserting the end of the latches into each end of the pipe and closing them, or by cutting a slot in one end of the pipe, then rotating it away from the edge of the latch.

It would seem that something like this used while traveling would keep the latches from vibrating open. Well I guess I'm off to the hardware store tomorrow to buy some 1" PVC.

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It's surprisingly easy to break in to those big windows. I had to do it once.

Someone suggested that to protect the interior, you could slip a piece of PVC pipe over the ends of the latches.... I suppose you'd do that by half opening both, then inserting the end of the latches into each end of the pipe and closing them, or by cutting a slot in one end of the pipe, then rotating it away from the edge of the latch.

It would seem that something like this used while traveling would keep the latches from vibrating open. Well I guess I'm off to the hardware store tomorrow to buy some 1" PVC.

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Paula.

Or, an owner could learn where the vibration is coming from, and correct it.

Lack of proper running gear balance, is the usual cause.

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believe me the chances of winning the lottery and your window being sucked out thru any means other than stupidty and not physically checking and locking them yourself are about the same....


could happen....but....not likely...pvc won't help as much as locking them before traveling...

you can travel fine with one of the latches unlocked......the chances of both "vibrating" loose are as close to zero as the interest rates in the united states at the moment
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The latch should not vibrate loose if adjusted properly. Since our initial window loss, no latches have self-opened. The self-opened one was very loose and easily rotated open.

It was the front latch, therefore wind was blowing toward it as we traveled and probably the window was being forced open slightly until either another factor, like the vacuum from a passing truck, or the window reached the point when it would shatter. If it were the rear latch, the wind may have pressed it to the body and maybe nothing would have happened. I am not going to experiment with that to find out. So, the glass can shatter with one latch down and one locked. A latch designed to open when it falls down does not take gravity into consideration and is not well thought out.

If the glass had a frame, maybe it would not break as easily. Whether the decision was made not to include a frame because of design considerations or cost cutting I don't know.

The chance of getting a new trailer with a poorly adjusted latch is hopefully small. The chance of leaving the latches open yourself is probably pretty small too, but maybe not as small.

The post by AZ-JH says they lost a window too, but we don't know why that one broke. It appears they don't either.

These large frameless windows are attractive, but besides sometimes breaking, are not very practical either. The opening and closing system is awkward and we don't often open them. Open means it's easy to get in the trailer for bears and people with foul intent. We never leave them open when we go to bed and use the roof fans to ventilate the trailer. Earlier windows (I've seen them on a 2005) had a fixed and larger open section on top and a smaller section at the bottom to open. It's too small to act as an entry point and is framed to strengthen the glass. But it's not as pretty.

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