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Old 08-20-2003, 07:06 PM   #1
 
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Brunooffrance- St.Tropez?

Where did you stay there?

I had an Overlander there last year and found a nice big spot in Kon Tiki at Pampelonne Plage in Ramatuelle. It was really nice, only a 5 minute drive on my Harley to get to the Harbor in St Tropez- my friend is Pascal Villanova- he owns a marina and store right in the downtown harbor area.

I think they have a place that was 6 Euros a night in the next plage towards the west- next to Nikki Beach, but there are no facilities and my toilet was giving me issues...

Have you been to Perry's place, further south, or have you ever checked out Sanguli in Salau Espagne...? Nice place- better than anywhere I've seen in the states...
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Kon-Tiki : too steep, Nikki beach : too poser , 7 Euro Voile Rouge parking : the best, was there last week.

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Oh! How nice...

I'll be there soon! So I guess we'll get to meet each other face to face after all...

And I agree on the beachside parking lot style. I have a child though and need a place for her to hang with the other kiddies.

There is supposed to be another place in the Camargue where you can stay on the beach for free and is indefinite- no time limit. Like rolling sand dunes next to the sea...

We also have a Nikki Beach here in Miami Beach- 1 block from my home.

The problem- as I saw in the area, was I had to look for 2 days to find a spot I could fit my OL into- the spaces are too small for a 9 meter trailer- most there are about 6 meters.
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Old 08-21-2003, 08:37 AM   #4
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hi trailertrash

Hi trailer trash & Hart...

I was parked in front of Saint tropez in a campgroung " camping de la plage " during 3 weeks but what a hot season !!!! count $22 the night all incl. i don't want to take the risk to put the A/S in the sand and don't arrive to get away from St trop beaches.

Hart came to my A/S but I was not there

I know your guy Pascal Villanova because I went to his marine shop to find the famous aluminium polish .... There was some products but prices were very expensive so i decide to wait;

I know too the Saint Tropez beaches; i go there one or two times the year for 20 years, with only a 750 japan motorcycle, not an HD...

About Perry, not met at this time, it was my first trip with my A/S; Too far to visit him this summer; May be at the next rally he 'll certainly organize , next year but the A/S is again now in the north of FRANCE, 1200 km from St Trop, 1,5 day on motorways to go back home. not a little adventure with a 27'.

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Mine also-

In the north- Le Havre. My 1959 TW and my custom Airstream Bus with 2 HD's and a BMW F650 Dirt Bike are in the back.

Pascal Villanova sells a great polish called Stoppani from Italia. Its also available in his brothers store across from the Casino Supermarche at the circle- Olivier who works in that store will know what it is- tell him the big American guy from Miami Beach sent you- he'll remember.

I stripped and polished my 1969 OL in his shipyard there last summer- he also has all the 3M products.

Is Camping de la Plage on the Ramatuelle side, or up in Port Grimaud? Maybe its the other one owned by the group that owns Toison D'or and Kon Tiki. I like the Ramatuelle side because that road has very little traffic going into town.

I also have a place we can stay in Pardigon Plage by Cavalaire Sur Mer. The sites there were all too small, the cops told me even though it was posted not to camp there- it was OK because the OL was so big. No gypsies, and no problems...

I will bring my others over to Le Havre and Valencia this winter, if you know anyone interested-
1958 Flying Cloud (sale pending)
1959 Safari
1964 Bambi 2
1953 Flying Cloud
1950 Cruiser
1957 Custom 21 (very rare)
1953 Liner (2 doors on 1 side- rare)
All are rust free, Desert and Western bought. No East Coast rust buckets...

All will be sold completely polished, (with SS of course), and in varying states of condition on the interior and systems. I'll use a shipyard in Barcelona to complete any work needed, and have an account with Narbonne to provide parts and furnishings in 220 power. I also have 5000 watt power converters- big enough to run A/C- about e400 if I bring them with the trailer.

I hope to get by Perry's on my way south, but first will go to Sweden, then Latvija (Lettonie) and back to Norway- then south. I plan to spend the winter in south Spain and Portugal.

Maybe I'll see ya!
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Not found the stoppani polish in the store, I've told to polish my A/S and not this one proposed by villanova; Why; the villanova store is on the circle " LA FOUX" at PORT GRIMAUD.

About " le camping de la plage", it is near "les prairies de la mer" at Saint pons les mūres, on the long straight road between the circle and Saint Maxime.

The world is small; Pardigon beach is a well known space for the sea scooters . At the entrance there is a small free theater; great!!! My mother had a house in Cavalaire; Sold now and it ' s because I 've bought an A/S in US, to continue to get holidays, in great comfort in this part of FRANCE.

About transformer, it's OK for me; 3 trans on my A/S: 3000w, 1000w & 300w.

may be see you one day,

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Question Questions....

Hi There guys!

your threads are most interesting, especially for us since I've recently moved to the US from Italy and have just purchased an AS.

We'd love to take it to Italy and were wondering how you go about that.
Obviously by ship but how?

Is there a way to travel through Canada and cross just by using Ferries?

I friend of mine did it five years ago, Milano-NYC with his bike, through England and up tp the Farroer Islands if I remember correctly. Took him over 3 months! A bike is a small thing to ferry, I don't know how that would work for our AS.

How did you guys do it? Did you just have them shipped? We'd actually love to drive it there. All the way to the driveway of our friends house in Sardegna.

Is it possible? Are costs crazy?

What about permits/licenses??
...Italians have a passion for bureaucracy...

Can you just cross with the US plates and drive it there for 6 months as with a car?

Any help is appreciated.

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mine; to BELGIUM

Hi KIMILI;
Mine was shipping in a special boat from Jacksonville , fla to Zeebrugge, belgium in only 3 weeks; the cost for shipping was $3700 ; add belgium company, $70 for the papers, french custom: $300; that all. For the anecdote, the boat sunk after...

So I don't know italian regulations so with my custom papers, I could drive it 3 monthes with american plate; after that french grey card, collectible too because THE A/S are too much specifics... in weight, lenght, brakes ... So we 're lucky with the FFVE ( french federation of old vehicles ) who give you the collectible card to drive, with small restrictions too;

About driving license, i'had to get the special one to drive this heavy trailer; the E category.

I suppose because we are in the EEC, regulations are sometimes to times the same ones; to verify before.
I know a guy asking me advices ot import MH in Holland but taxes were enormous and incredible to import this vehicle.

Good luck


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kimili-

You can ship it to Livorno- I think is the more popular port. The going rate is around $3.85 a cubic foot, and goes down if you have larger volume and do more business with them.
I drive mine around with no problem- but am American, and have US truck drivers license, laws are different there- they all want you to have a bigger license if you drive something bigger than Punto or Twingo.
Or a SEAT Marbella- can't leave out Spain....

You can tag here with no insurance and a very low yearly fee, and a tag agency can forward you the new decals every year to avoid the hassle of registration and inspection in EU.

Good luck!
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Thanks for your info.

I guess there's no way we can drive it there...shipping is the only option. Genova and Livorno would both work for me and if it were Civitavecchia or Naples it would just mean...Amalfi coast first!

I'm Italian but my hubby is "ammerricano". Does that mean:
- we can keep it registered and insured here in the US
- only he can drive it in Italy?

I have a regular driver's licence (Italy's "B" licence) both here in the US and Italy.

Does the EU law allow this even with a non-vintage AS? Ours is a 2004...

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I think you'll be 'nt allowed to drive a 2004 A/S in Europe excep if you chage axles, brakes... The only way is to import a collectible one: more than 25 years old in minimum.
So the driver license to get with your B, is EB; In FRANCE, it's the regulation, certainly too in Italy.

Sorry for the bad news.

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I think-

He can take it out to a non EU country- I'm always in Russia and Latvija anyway- so for me its no big deal. I'd say take it to Croatia and hit that little stretch of beach down by Split for a week or 2. Take guns though- they play dirty...
I doubt if you keep it tagged you'll ever have a problem- but if you do- the tax on a new one there is probably steep- be careful. I'd take a vintage one- you can say whatever you want for the price, and you have one here and one there.
The DL will depend on the weight. And you have to get something there to pull it with- its not so easy with a bigger one- a big Sprinter or Ducato. Oops! Sorry Bruno- a Boxer, Jumper, or Master should also work great!
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Thanks again guys for your prompt help!

I guess the "International" name on our AS does not reflect it's name after all! Funny they advertised it to us as EU compatible!! They even sai AS made it specifically following EU regulations, size of axles, brakes and yes weight!

In fact as a tow vehicle, we were thinking of the new VW Touareg Diesel, loved it!
...we could take our Excursion there but my mom would get a heart attack! Would've to get rid of 3 cars in the garage to park It!

Enjoy you're european travels!

...guess that you're not just trailer trash but also "euro trash"...that's what they call my hubby at work.

cheers
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Ok for the meeting at Pampelonne, but not naked & bring a sample of SS for me to test...
I was at Perry's hideout at the top of the world (quite hard to find) but only saw his charming wife and the amazing row of Airstreams with adjacent patio , cool... Perry was away buying his fifth AS.

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