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Old 02-08-2016, 06:33 AM   #29
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Is that Fiama easy to use, as my back ain't what it use to be?
Nothing of mine is what it used to be, and I have no trouble with our Fiama. Works great, no regrets.

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Old 02-08-2016, 05:10 PM   #30
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Fiamma Measurements

The 5 3/4" is center to center. The distance between the two rails is 3 3/8". The rails are 2 1/4" wide at their top and are 51" long.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:29 PM   #31
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We had the dealer install a bike rack (two bikes) on the rear when we purchased our 2014 International Serenity. We have experienced no problems and as has been stated by others we have access to the rear storage area......not completely unfettered but quite acceptable.I personally wouldn't choose to mount the rack on the front......might interfere with tight turns. We also do not intend to take the rack off as I suspect it would eventually be a problem?? Good luck.
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Old 02-08-2016, 10:43 PM   #32
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I found the bikes were positioned a bit too close to each other so I swapped out the aluminum tubing that holds the rear bike in position with a PVC pipe of the same diameter but about an inch longer. Then my bike (I didn't dare put my wife's there) is securely in place but on a slight angle - leaning back! And as someone said the clearance to the rear window is marginal, but we do like the rack and could never leave the bikes home!
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Old 02-08-2016, 11:51 PM   #33
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Thanks for the specific measurements Bosco and thanks to all for the additional input. Even thought the tolerances seem tight, it sounds like there is just enough clearance and adjustability for it to work. I think we will be ordering one soon and will post results once installed.

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Old 02-11-2016, 12:07 AM   #34
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Very pleased with Arvika rack. Mounts on tongue above propane tanks and batteries. I modified a little to move it aft, lower, and tighter space for two bikes to avoid any potential clearance problems with TV - a P/U truck with shell and pipe racks. Arvika puts the bikes where they belong - where the trailer is strong, and where there is unused space. No interference problems with WD hitch bars, but the bikes must come off to remove propane tanks for re-filling. I have seen others filling with tanks still mounted - probably left the fridge flame on - but not for me!

Having had an AS with rear end separation, I know the hazards of weight on the rear frame; as well as sway problems, and never want to experience those few moments of terror EVER again.
Arvika racks are made to fit Airstreams, and are sturdily built, with good engineering, fit and finish, and thorough installation instructions. Some assembly required! Very easy to remove, leaving just the mounting hardware. jsutro
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Old 02-12-2016, 09:19 AM   #35
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AMEN to jsutro's post! We tow with an Armada and have had NO ISSUES with rear clearance even in tight turns. Arvika makes a quality product. Also, the extra support bracket is a must even for two bikes.
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Old 02-14-2016, 01:20 PM   #36
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I transferred my Fiamma from our 19 to 23 International. I noticed that the inside two body screws on each bracket had enlarged the holes in the aluminum skin. They do not screw into a solid area as do the outside screws. So, I riveted the inside 4 screws when I mounted it on the 23D.
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:39 PM   #37
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We have the dealer installed Fiamma and it great. We have a townie and a schwinn (townie type) so the handle bars are a bit tight but workable. I keep the correct allen wrench handy in case I need to adjust the stem of my wife's with much wider bars). We have a 20 with the kit in the back so safety egress isn't an issue as ours is on the side. I'm not sure in the absence of bikes that I could even climb out over the sink and thru the window anyway.

No question the rear storage is a challenge, but certainly workable. I think I'm going to look for some hose material that I can slit the length & to slip over the chain as I got some oil on my sleeve.
I too read the history failures and willk eep an eye on the attachment rackets at the skin.

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Old 02-17-2016, 03:24 PM   #38
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I was at Foley RV, AKA Airstream of Mississippi, just yesterday and saw something that might fit the bill. It's a frame that allows you to mount a hitch-mount bike rack on top of your propane cover. They had one in stock, but can order more.

I forgot who makes it, but a call to June Boudreaux, the parts manager at Foley RV, should be able to have one on its way to you in no time.
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:20 PM   #39
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For many Airstreamers, we don't want to add to the hitch weight of our trailer because of weight distribution hitch concerns, payload limits of tow vehicle, and keeping under Airstream's 1,000 lb hitch weight maximum. So we put the bikes on the back of our Airstream, which removes excessive weight off the hitch.

Ideally we're looking for 10-12% of trailer weight on the hitch.
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:00 PM   #40
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Some have issues with what I've done but to each their own. I have hauled two bikes over 10,000 miles without any issues.


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Old 02-17-2016, 06:20 PM   #41
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For many Airstreamers, we don't want to add to the hitch weight of our trailer because of weight distribution hitch concerns, payload limits of tow vehicle, and keeping under Airstream's 1,000 lb hitch weight maximum.
Tongue weight is a matter of front-to-back balance. Any weight added to the front of the trailer can be offset by weight added to the rear of the trailer, up to the limit of the gross trailer weight.

So a rack mounted to the front of the trailer might still be viable for people watching their tongue weight. The biggest limitation is that if you tow with an SUV or a pickup with a shell, the bike might hit the tow vehicle in a turn, so a front rack is best limited to pickups that don't have shells.

I'm not married to the idea of a front rack, though, so if you don't want to use one, don't. Won't hurt my feelings one little bit. I merely tossed it out as an option to consider.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:28 PM   #42
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I was at Foley RV, AKA Airstream of Mississippi, just yesterday and saw something that might fit the bill. It's a frame that allows you to mount a hitch-mount bike rack on top of your propane cover. They had one in stock, but can order more.

I forgot who makes it, but a call to June Boudreaux, the parts manager at Foley RV, should be able to have one on its way to you in no time.
Yeah- saw those.... I found a couple that do this:

Arvika makes this one: http://www.racksforcars.com/15152/Ar...Inch-Receiver/

Etrailer has one by Stromberg: https://www.etrailer.com/RV-and-Moto...on/CC-275.html

I went with the original Arvika though, and I am very pleased with the design. Not only is it a great aesthetic compliment to the Airstream, but it's Foldable, detachable, lightweight, attaches to the strongest part of the trailer frame, NOT in the way of my license plate/ trunk/ blinkers/ brake lights, AND I can even quick attache a v-nose cargo box on it for more storage: http://www.racksforcars.com/15147/Ar...ailer-Bracket/

I can easily carry a 2nd, inexpensive folding rack for my 2" receiver and keep it in the car. The Arvika has a conversion kit to transfer, but that solution doesnt make much sense for my use- both for cost/ benefit and functionality.
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