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Old 06-16-2014, 07:30 AM   #1
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Ban on GPS In Moving Vehicle?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/bu...-vehicles.html
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Old 06-16-2014, 07:44 AM   #2
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My thoughts: distracted is distracted, whether it's phoning, texting, or google mapping. If something will take your eyes off the road, even for a second or two, let your passenger do it, or pull over.
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:13 AM   #3
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I'd argue that there's already sufficient regulation. Distracted driving is distracted driving, whatever device it is that you're fiddling with at the time, but the trouble is that it's often only after a crash that the distracted driving is discovered and of course that's too late.

I guess that the app makers and suppliers of in and out of dash systems need to keep making sure that their interfaces are simple. Law enforcement people need to be on the lookout for proper distracted driving and not technical infringements like that guy in the article. Courts need to make sure they're convicting for proper infractions and above all, drivers need to understand the dangers in taking their attention away from the road. How many times have you seen a truck driver guiding many tons of trailer down the highway at 65mph whilst texting? (It's not only truck drivers, of course). That's illegal, easy to spot, and yet they continue to do it.

I hope that the law makers "don't throw the baby out with the bathwater". Better enforcement of the current laws and better education is surely the only way to go.
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This is probably a back door to ban apps like Trapster (which some have already tried); IMO.
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:26 AM   #5
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Smart phones are not well engineered for using in cars. I have found them very inefficient and cumbersome to use even while not driving a car. Most things on a smart phone require several screens and then several swipes, taps etc to operate most of the time requiring both hands and your full attention. Most of the time my wife navigates with the phone while I drive. Sometimes I feel like I am the only person on the road paying any attention to driving at all.

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Old 06-16-2014, 12:24 PM   #6
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Hi, factory GPS's in cars will most likely not be banned. In California, GPS's like Garmin Etc. cannot be blocking the center of the windshield. They must be mounted in the left or right lower corner of the windshield, I keep mine on the consul. For me, a glance down to see my next lane change or off ramp is much safer than trying to make a last second change because you didn't see it coming, especially while towing. And yes that glance down is no different than a radio change or A/C change while driving. [We know nobody else besides me is doing that, right] As for the smart phones, which I don't have one, if you are using the map mode and your phone is in a holder like a GPS, I would say it's OK. But if you are holding it while driving, to me, that's the same as making a call while driving.
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Most GPS apps have voice navigation and voice control.

I use Siri on my iPhone to find what I am looking for and give me voice directions. I never have to take my hands off the wheel or take my eyes off the road. It is all voice controlled.

The problem with distracted driving laws is that they are hard to enforce. Also it is difficult to legislate common sense. A driver can always find distractions whether they are caused by a smart phone, a ham sandwich, a sexy pedestrian, a bug, or a splinter in your shoe.

Drivers just need to use more common sense and drive defensively.
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I would have to say that the worst device causing distraction on the road is by far the cell phone. GPS is like a radio, if voice activated. Mine dings and says TURN HERE! Her name is Gretchen.

People holding cell phones and driving is dangerous. I often ride a mid-sized scooter and I easily see people driving around holding cell phones out in front of them talking or to their ear. Usually everyone else in the car has some device in their face so no hope of someone else warning the driver of danger. Oh, and so often I see families in restaurants just sitting in silence, everyone into their device, playing, checking email, etc. no talking or sharing- freaky society we live in!

They passed a law here in FL back in the spring, no loud music from vehicles. Well, I have heard more megaphone music cars since the law than before blasting music via a loudspeaker discretely mounted under the hood or car.
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Wonder if they'll be able to solve the problem of all the people who listen to their GPS and drive into a river?
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~~ As for the smart phones, which I don't have one, if you are using the map mode and your phone is in a holder like a GPS, I would say it's OK. But if you are holding it while driving, to me, that's the same as making a call while driving.
I think research shows that it's not, in fact, the same level of distraction. Studies have shown only a small difference in distraction between hand-held and hands-free conversations, the big distraction is the conversation itself. Now, setting a route can be distracting if you don't know how to do it with voice commands, but you're not supposed to set a route on the fly with built-in systems either, and many manufacturers lock that out or only allow you to use voice commands while in motion.
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We don't have built in GPS/Navigation, so use phones. Set it and drive. It's not that hard to be safe. It's hard to legislate against people doing stuff they should know better than to do while driving.
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At the end of the day, the driver must be held responsible for his actions, but don't penalize those that can drive and follow a GPS map or work a remote phone via Bluetooth because others cannot.

Imagine if this limitation was imposed upon Pilots, we would ground all flying!
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I must be to old. Remember the days of the folding AAA map which had been highlighted with your route? Spread from the driver to passenger side fully covering the dash as Dad tried to make sense of it with Mom's help. All at the top speed of a sedate 50-55mph. There are bigger things to be concerned about.
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I must be to old. Remember the days of the folding AAA map which had been highlighted with your route? Spread from the driver to passenger side fully covering the dash as Dad tried to make sense of it with Mom's help. All at the top speed of a sedate 50-55mph. There are bigger things to be concerned about.
Ha...my dad was a WWII Naval Aviation Navigator for the first 3 years of the war. My mom was the assigned navigator on our vacations. How do you think that worked out. Talk about distractions!

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