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Old 07-25-2009, 09:08 PM   #15
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Last time we were in southern New Mexico—quite a few years ago, probably in the dearly '90's—we and everyone else were stopped coming back by the Border Patrol which had the interstate blocked. It was like crossing the border and it was a permanent station. I knew they could do this. I think the Supreme Court ruled once they could do it 200 miles from the border and that they could do anything they wanted. Nonetheless, I was surprised being stopped quite a few miles from the border. We've never gone that close to the Mexican border since—we were 50 to 75 miles north of it.

Are they still doing searches in Arizona and NM far from the border?

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I have not heard of any in Arizona, but you will frequently see the Border Patrol pulling vans and trucks over between Tucson and Phoenix. I have seen the road blockage in southern New Mexico and also in West Texas, but that was many years ago.

Brian is right on about the Copper Queen in Bisbee. It's a great place to have dinner when in the area. Another place to visit in Southern Arizona is Ramsey Canyon.

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Old 07-25-2009, 10:44 PM   #17
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And don't forget The Shady Dell RV Park in Bisbee...that's where we stay when we go there...a funky little park with restored vintage trailers that you can rent like motel rooms...they also have a limited number of RV spots, and they (Jason & Jennifer) always welcome Airstreams...Welcome to the Shady Dell! ... visit our travel log (link below) for lots of pictures, etc... we go there a couple times a year, and it is always a blast...
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Old 07-26-2009, 09:13 AM   #18
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Last time we were in southern New Mexico—quite a few years ago, probably in the dearly '90's—we and everyone else were stopped coming back by the Border Patrol which had the interstate blocked. It was like crossing the border and it was a permanent station. I knew they could do this. I think the Supreme Court ruled once they could do it 200 miles from the border and that they could do anything they wanted. Nonetheless, I was surprised being stopped quite a few miles from the border. We've never gone that close to the Mexican border since—we were 50 to 75 miles north of it.

Are they still doing searches in Arizona and NM far from the border?

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Yes, they do. Had to stop many times, usually at portable stations.
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Yep, that border inspection station is still there on I25 North. And don't ask them to use the restroom. If you do, they direct you to their little jail and tell you to use that one. (I passed on the invitation.)


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Old 07-26-2009, 10:39 AM   #20
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And don't ask them to use the restroom. If you do, they direct you to their little jail and tell you to use that one. (I passed on the invitation.)


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I bring my own now.

I was wondering if they go through travel trailers like at the border and whether people have experienced a search going through drawers, storage, etc., and have to wait for a long period of time.

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I don't know about searching RVs; I've been through only in a car, and they have always just waved me past. I suspect that there's some (legal or illegal) profiling going on of some variety.

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In January 2008, we went through 4 "checkpoints" on our travels between So CA and Corpus Christi. The worst was a stop along I8 near El Cajon, as the checkpoint was located at the top of a hill & the waiting line crawled up the hill. Felt for those truckers who had to move a dead weight & inch up the incline.
The other checkpoints were eastbound on I8 about 60 miles east of Yuma, westbound on I10 just across the New Mexico/Texas border, and eastbound on I10 in west Texas. By the looks, only the New Mexico & Texas stops were "permanent."
We were waived thru at each checkpoint, with just a cursory look. Biggest hassle was slowing down to a crawl along the interstate for up to 1/2 hour.
I believe that the border patrol has sanctions to stop & search within 100 miles of the US border. In 2008, they were exercising this option as a checkpoint briefly appeared on US 101 in WA state, just outside of Port Angeles WA. Guess the rationale was that Port Angeles was less than 100 miles to Canada. The only way though to cross the border at this location is by ferry to Victoria, boat, or swim!
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Arizona check points

There is now a check point about 20 miles north of the Mexican border from Nogales. It is permanent and will soon be enlarged. Its usually a very fast passing with a friendly wave through.

Be aware that there are detectors for RADIO ACTIVE materials and I believe that this is the reason for the check point. My son who just had a medical scan which used a small amount of radio active material was stoped and scanned. They filled out a special form to allow him to proceed.

Its for our security so please take the small inconvience as a safety measure.

If you are comming from Mexico there is the obvious border check point. All RV's and motor homes will be searched for food items that are not permitted. Most times they only search the fridge but sometimes they will look in adjecant storage arears. Be aware of the food items that are not allowed to cross the border. You can find a list online. Either eat them before crossing or hide them well if you dont want them confiscated.

When crossing the border between Nogales Mexico and Nogales USA do NOT go through Nogales Mexico. Use the Mariposa exit and take the short freeway. It costs a toll but certainly worth it. Nogales can be a dangerous city at times. There is no inspection for RV's and trailers on the Mexican side. Just follow the special lane which is marked for RV's and boats.

If you stay out of the border towns Mexico is very safe and a fun country to visit. Try San Carlos for RV parks and fish in the ocean. Lots of "gringos" winter there.
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We saw the detectors for radioactive materials when we returned from Canada and entered Montana at a very small crossing. It was this very large yellow up side down U (square corners though). They told us if we flunked the first one, they sent us through another one. We were told they were at every border crossing, but it appears they are now in from the border too according to pacer. If I want to bring in an atom bomb, now I'll have to encase it in lead and get heavy duty axles.

I'm not against reasonable security, but some of it is either for show or mindless in my opinion. Are they using those detectors at the ports where containers have not been inspected regularly and it's 8 years since 9/11? They put them out where we can see them so we think we're safe, but they need them at the container ports where we don't see them.

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Quite a bit of info on checkpoints and radio active materials. Thanks for that. But my intent on posting this thread was to zero in on a Campground for this winter. Tucson will probably be our destination, all 2000 miles away from where we call home. I spent some time on you tube today and was amazed at all the videos of Tucson, from campgrounds to state parks, from wild rides on bikes to videos of lightning and monsoons that frequent the area. State Parks seemed to be a choice for many even though you cannot reserve a spot. "First come first served" Not sure I can take a chance on that after a such a long haul. I believe we need a home base so that day trips and some sanity can be kept in place. So I think we will be in Tucson in Dec, Jan, and Feb. and then mobile a bit north towards Sedona and take pot luck with the State Park system. Just don't know where yet.... Where oh where we do not know....Jim
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AZ State parks are great, but few offer full hookups and most have a 14 day limit.
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AZFLY...what do you think the occupancy rate of SPs in AZ. are in the peak season. Near 100%. The 14 day limit and hook-ups are not an issue with us. I guess you can call ahead to see if there are open spots instead of driving to the area to find no openings. That would be a bummer, it gets dark in AZ too...right?

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Jim... Here's what we'd do if it were us, since we know that the AZ State Parks are mostly first come first serve and they can get pretty busy during the winter...that, taken with the fact that you don't necessary plan to stay put in one place for your entire stay...

I'd book a private RV Park for a couple of weeks or so in Tucson or one of the surrounding communities... so that you know where you are going to land once you're here...that takes away the anxiety not of knowing where you're going to stay when you arrive...then take that couple of weeks to get the lay of the land and explore some other possibilities of places to stay once you're here...visit some sate parks, other RV parks, decide if you want to move to one of those (early-to-mid-week is always the best time to change), or to another town, even...that way you have a destination and a place to use as a spring board to other places... then play it by ear a little. We know that it's much less stressful knowing that you have a place waiting for you as you head out...at the same time you have built in flexibility once you're here with time to catch your breath ...and you're not committed to a place you may not want to stay for a really long time. Just a thought.

We hope you have a great time here...and maybe you can even take in a 4CU rally while you're in our neck of the woods...we'd love to have you! There's one in Cottonwood in early Feb right near Sedona!
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