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Old 12-21-2018, 07:57 PM   #1
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Are any AS friends in national parks?

Hi all - just thinking about you - are you already set up in national parks for the holidays? or on the way to one? What is happening there? If the government shuts down in 3 hours are you locked in? locked out? Will you have water and power?

Just checking on you - hoping you are ok! We are on the emergency overnight stay if anyone is going/coming through Midlothian Texas

Just wishing ya'll well and we are thinking about you.
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:14 PM   #2
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On another forum an RVer said they would hear at 4pm tomorrow if they would have to leave the park. A volunteer in a different NP reported they were putting up signs to close it.

Not a good time to have to pack up and leave. Be careful out there. There will be lots of people on the road. Give yourself and them a brake. Pat
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Old 12-21-2018, 11:24 PM   #3
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It would make too much sense to let you stay even if the staff had to leave for a few days. I know, what about the others that have reservations coming up? Honor system never trusted with the government involved. I feel for you all too.
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Old 12-22-2018, 07:14 AM   #4
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upsetting for the holidays

I just hate that people have spent time/money to plan a Christmas vacation at one of the parks - or maybe they are just staying there to be close to friends and family and now this happens. One of the websites mentioned that many parks would stay open but there would not be security or ""services"" - whatever that means..........wonder if they even keep the electricity on.........hoping they can find a safe place to stay and enjoy their holiday time off.
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We were at the Grand Canyon north when the last shutdown happened. They gave people 4 days to leave the campground. It really cleared out and it was beautifully quiet there. We felt bad though for the rangers and workers ( who donít make much money to begin with and can be living on the edge financially ) and people who had flown out to be at the park specifically for a once in a lifetime family vacation ( we talked to several ).
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Both SuEllyn and I are retired from the Federal Government. Every time these shutdowns occur, they end up costing the tax payers several time what it would have cost to continue business as usual. It is sad that these people we elect and send to Washington can't seem to remember why they are there.

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My DW is a federal employee. She had scheduled vacation for next week, but she will be on furlough instead (by the government's direction). Crazy and wasteful!
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:20 AM   #8
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Here in Arizona our Governor said that the State will keep the Grand Canyon open.
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We are on our way to Joshua Tree National Park but I beleive it's not a locked ( gated park).
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We are on our way to Joshua Tree National Park but I beleive it's not a locked ( gated park).
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During the federal government shutdown, Joshua Tree will remain open. Campgrounds and vault toilets will remain open. All other services will be closed. In an emergency, call 911.
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We are volunteer camp hosting for the Winter. We originally thought campers would get kicked out and the camping loops closed, but that doesn't appear to be the case for the moment. Latest word is that campers will be allowed to stay, but bathrooms, picnic areas, and all other facilities are closed and locked.

I feel for the rangers, who will be spending their holidays with some uncertainty about when they'll see their next paycheck. Most of them have been through this multiple times before, so they're all taking it in stride.

We are grateful that the campers, some of whom have no backup plan, are being allowed to stay for the time being.

Personally, our situation hasn't changed, except that we're not to perform our patrols or any "official" duties. Though we're not paid a salary, we're still considered employees for workers' comp, and are therefore furloughed like everyone else. But we're volunteers, so we'll still be keeping an eye out and if someone needs help, we'll help them personally.Click image for larger version

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I just hate that people have spent time/money to plan a Christmas vacation at one of the parks - or maybe they are just staying there to be close to friends and family and now this happens. One of the websites mentioned that many parks would stay open but there would not be security or ""services"" - whatever that means..........wonder if they even keep the electricity on.........hoping they can find a safe place to stay and enjoy their holiday time off.
Electricity is on, at least here. Turning it off would require winterizing the facilities to prevent freeze damage, which would cost money they're not allowed to spend. I imagine it would take a long time before the power company would shut off the park's service for lack of payment.
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Electricity is on, at least here. Turning it off would require winterizing the facilities to prevent freeze damage, which would cost money they're not allowed to spend. I imagine it would take a long time before the power company would shut off the park's service for lack of payment.
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"The National Park Service will keep its gates to the country's parks open until the government reopens but will close any facilities - including bathrooms, visitors centers and campgrounds - that require staff. National Park Service employees will be on furlough."

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...national-parks
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