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03-07-2018, 03:49 PM
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1 Rivet Member
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Are Airstreams more likely to be struck by lightning
Just wondering if they are more susceptible? I have no idea if aluminum even attracts lightning, any comments or thoughts would be appreciated.
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03-07-2018, 04:28 PM
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2017 27' Flying Cloud
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NEPAStreamin
Just wondering if they are more susceptible? I have no idea if aluminum even attracts lightning, any comments or thoughts would be appreciated.
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Lightning looks for a path to ground. The tires clearly isolate you from ground. The only path I can see is through the jack. I don't see any issues.
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03-07-2018, 04:37 PM
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2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
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If you are comparing to other brands I don't think there is much of difference in your chance of getting hit. The Airstream might be a little safer to be in due to the aluminum gage around you. In any case I would not want to be in any trailer struck by lightning.
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03-07-2018, 04:38 PM
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Dazed and Confused
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Aluminum is actually a pretty poor conductor of electricity compared to steel or copper.
A couple of tips when in a storm......get along side a taller SOB and let him take the strike.
Also if driving in tornado country take along a couple of chickens with you; when a tornado approaches, tie the chickens to your TV and trailer and ride out the storm. Why chickens you ask? When watching any twister movie, have you ever seen a chicken swept away, flying around? No, just semi's, cows, pigs, combines, tractors and pick up trucks; no chickens; they know something that scientists don't know.
Cheers
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03-07-2018, 04:43 PM
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Opinionated newb...
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Hah!
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03-07-2018, 05:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
Aluminum is actually a pretty poor conductor of electricity compared to steel or copper. -- snip -- Tony
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I assume you are being a bit tongue in cheek as my teachers had a slightly different take on conductivity.
Material IACS (International Annealed Copper Standard)
Ranking Metal % Conductivity*
1 Silver (Pure) 105%
2 Copper 100%
3 Gold (Pure) 70%
4 Aluminum 61%
5 Brass 28%
6 Zinc 27%
7 Nickelb 22%
8 Iron (Pure) 17%
9 Tin 15%
10 Phosphor Bronze 15%
11 Steel (Stainless too) 3-15%
12 Lead (Pure) 7%
13 Nickel Alum Bronze 7%
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03-07-2018, 05:16 PM
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Huh?
1975 27' Overlander
Twin Cities
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Struck by lightning no.
But because if their shiny appearance they are often shot by space aliens who think they are the craft from a competing colony of aliens.
Then they shoot first and ask questions later.
It would surprise you to see how closely the damage from a small photon torpeo resembles that of a lightning strike.
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03-07-2018, 05:19 PM
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2007 22' International CCD
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Ah, now it makes sense...
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03-08-2018, 03:24 AM
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Thank you. I’ll have to get some chickens...and watch out for aliens.
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03-08-2018, 04:59 AM
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Three legged alien chckens. Put a boardor plastic leggo under your jack and stabs.
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03-08-2018, 05:08 AM
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Dazed and Confused
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PKI
I assume you are being a bit tongue in cheek as my teachers had a slightly different take on conductivity.
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No mate, I was dead serious in my post.
Another serious suggestion would be to place a lightning post, (or a couple if trailer over 25'), on the roof with a grounding wire to a 5' steel pole that you drive at least 3' into the ground everywhere you stop to camp.
Tip to self: remove BEFORE setting off.
Cheers
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03-08-2018, 05:14 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billrector
Lightning looks for a path to ground. The tires clearly isolate you from ground. The only path I can see is through the jack. I don't see any issues.
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Getting away from the recent goofy answers (amusing as they are )…
The tongue jack, stabilizer jacks, shore power cable, water in your water hose, rainwater running down the tires, safety chains left hanging down to the ground, all can and will conduct a lightning strike to ground…
And even though the tires are made of a synthetic rubber compound, they are NOT insulators. Radial steel belts inside a tire conduct electricity, and the synthetic rubber is not enough insulation to keep a high-voltage lightning strike from going to ground right through the sidewalls. Pure natural rubber insulates. Synthetic rubber conducts, though not as well as metal, due to other compounds other than rubber that make up the formula.
Being inside a metal trailer is like being inside a Faraday cage. The lightning strike would be conducted along the outside of the trailer, and as long as you're completely inside the trailer and not touching the inner skin, you would not be harmed.
But that does not mean your expensive electronics would fare as well, since they're grounded to the trailer. Surge protectors don't protect against lightning strikes unless those strikes happen to hit the electrical service wires that lead to your trailer. A strike that hits your trailer directly would not be attenuated by the surge protector.
Your best bet, if you expect lightning to strike in your area, is to disconnect shore power and put away the cord, disconnect your municipal water hookup from the trailer, put down your antennas, and shut off any appliances that you can, except of course for a (portable, battery-operated) AM/FM radio or NOAA weather radio to monitor the weather. And stay inside (always assuming that tornado activity is not expected, in which case get yourself to a sturdy real building instead)…
As for parking next to a taller SOB, that only works if you park REALLY close. Tall objects provide protection in a 45° cone from the highest point, and if your trailer is even partially outside that cone, it's still vulnerable to lightning strikes.
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03-08-2018, 08:47 AM
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If you wait around the campfire long enough, someone will give up the good stuff. Thanks Pro.
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03-08-2018, 09:12 AM
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If you are standing in a puddle of water in flip flops, hanging on to the aluminum awning rail that you are trying to put up before it's ripped off (should have put it up when the clouds started blowing in), you quickly become the fastest way to ground. Ask how I know this......
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03-08-2018, 09:50 AM
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The wife and I are laughing so hard on the most excellent suggestions! There are times on the forum people are way to serious.
Best regards and safe travels
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03-08-2018, 09:54 AM
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1 Rivet Member
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Along that same topic: Would a fiberglass trailer be any safer?
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03-08-2018, 09:56 AM
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2017 30' Classic
Anna Maria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultradog
Struck by lightning no.
But because if their shiny appearance they are often shot by space aliens who think they are the craft from a competing colony of aliens.
Then they shoot first and ask questions later.
It would surprise you to see how closely the damage from a small photon torpeo resembles that of a lightning strike.
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I had an encounter just like that last year on US 95 in Nevada. I got the dings on my rock guards to prove it.
They were real tiny little critter shooting at the trailer.
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03-08-2018, 10:01 AM
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Yep lots of good info there Pro, as usual, except for the "You would not be injured " part.
A buddy of mine was sailing solo from French Polyneisa for Hawaii. When his boat was struck by lightening. Killing all of his electronics plus leaving him completely deaf for many days. He did recover most of his hearing in time, but.
Cheers Richard
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03-08-2018, 10:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tevake
Yep lots of good info there Pro, as usual, except for the "You would not be injured " part.
A buddy of mine was sailing solo from French Polyneisa for Hawaii. When his boat was struck by lightening. Killing all of his electronics plus leaving him completely deaf for many days. He did recover most of his hearing in time, but.
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Never considered the issue of being injured by the thunderclap like that…
Learn something new every day!
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03-08-2018, 11:18 AM
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The good news was that your friend's hull was not dammaged in the event. Fiberglass degrades in the area where lightning passes. Surveys often find soft areas in a hull that has been hit by lightening.
The Google search turned up the comment that lightening has traveled a long distance through air before striking any object. Consequently, insulation needs to be significant value to help. Air is not very conductive and the lightening still makes that jump. Best practice appears to be a route to ground around anything that needs to be protected. Pat
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