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Old 09-28-2008, 06:49 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by jimmini View Post
Remember folks Airstream made 5th wheel trailer.
In 1988 they made the Argose 5th wheel and then in 1989 they made the same trailer as an Airstream.Both are nice units but only about 150 where made and only about 5 with a slide out.You can find info on them on this forum under trailer forums then click squarestream.
Airstream tride the 5th wheel market again in 1996/97 with the Integrity,that some say was just a rebaged Dutchman.Info on this unit is also on the trailer forum of the air forums under Integrity 5th Wheels.
The Airstream park at Show Low Arizona has one squarestream TT,a Airstream 5th wheel and a Integrity 5th if any of you are in the area and want to see them.Note the park is closed mid Oct. till the 1st of May.
Cool I didn't know about the previous Argosy and Airstream 5th wheels and slideouts too. I would love to see them! I have seen an Integrity and I see why some people thought it looked so much like another brand of trailer. Thanks for the info.

5th wheels have so much space and storage. Perhaps if I was living with a family full-time for extended stays and then relocated for more extended stays that would be a good option. I too am pleased to have an Airstream and feel pretty light and stylish in comparison.


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Old 09-28-2008, 09:32 PM   #16
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Fifth wheel?

Hi, my tow vehicle has a fifth wheel; I call it a steering wheel. To me, If I wanted a fifth wheel, it would be the same thing as if I wanted a Diesel. And if I want one of those I'll buy a Kenworth, Mack, Peterbuilt, or a Freightliner.


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Old 09-29-2008, 10:04 PM   #17
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I have wanted a 5er for a few years. I just love the room, would be especially nice on rainy and colder off-season days (we camp in Maryland from March to late Nov.). With the right 5er I could camp comfortably year-round in the mid-Atlantic. BIG tanks, again great for boondocking (maybe I could get rid of my blue tote tank!). I am a gear head and like all of the storage too. Many are prepped for generators, that would be a plus as we "boondock" 90% of the time. All in all, I think they offer pretty good bang for the buck.

However, they are so darn big and can limited the campsites you get into (we camp in mostly state parks). To me they look stupid and ungainly coming down the road. They shoot your already bad mileage too Heck. Furthermore, we carry bikes, kayaks and a canoe at times. 5ers make that difficult. Also I like having a cap/topper on my truck, we use that feature a lot, plus I had A.R.E. mount rails on the top of it at the facotry for my Thule bars. A good hitch for my shortbed, like the Superglide is expensive. They are SOB's and will start to look like crap in a few years and start to show wear pretty quickly unless you purchase an expensive deluxe model. I think that is part of the price you pay for the "bang for the buck".

We were looking at 5ers this past weekend. i told my wife that in the past I used to get stoked when I looked at them, but now it's kind of been there, done that with SOBs. I had a mild case of aluminitus a few years ago, but then I purchased my SOB. Which has been a pretty good trailer all in all (but for a roof leak that messed up my back ceiling...darn I need to replace that panel). I think Jayco builds a pretty good trailer for the bucks and they have about the best warranty in the business (I guess they still have the same warranty I had; 2 years bumper to hitch and another year on the structure, about the best in the RV business).

Also with the whole oil deal, I think I would feel better towing something with a lower "profile" with the added benefit of a bit better fuel mileage.

BTW I don't agree with the poster about the interiors. They must not have looked at many SOB's recently. A few years ago the interiors were, as we refer to it, too "country cutsie poo", but many of the new interiors have great looking designs with earth tones and are very desirable in that regard. Less etched mirrors more nicely stained wood.

It's funny how the larger the RV, the less people it is really meant to sleep. People say about large RV's / 5ers: Cocktails for 6, Dinner for 4, Sleeps 2.

Anyway, I have aluminitus pretty bad at this point, and while I may still revert back to an SOB, I don't think so. It's an itch that I need to scratch (if the economy ever sorts out)!
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Old 09-30-2008, 07:29 AM   #18
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Several matters prevents us:

1. There are very few Airstream fifth-wheels.

2. None of them are vintage.

3. We'd need a significantly larger truck.

4. Backing into a site with a fifth wheel is a damnable trick.

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Old 09-30-2008, 07:47 AM   #19
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I don't believe the fifth wheel A/S was very well received primarily because of what Lynn says
1. Weight-You almost needed a 1 ton diesel to pull the item with.
2. Size of unit made it tough to get into a lot of spaces at most National Park campgrounds

Most of the ones I have seen were used as live in units at construction sites, etc.

Give me the Classic A/S

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Old 10-16-2008, 03:36 AM   #20
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AD A 2004 38 ft. Gulf Stream Tri Axle 5th wheel with 3 slides. It was nice for full timing but we don't full time any more. It weighed about 15,000 to 16,000 loaded. Got 9 to 10 MPG with my 2004 Duramax. Took forever to stop. Don't dare make a mistake and get on the wrong road as it will take miles to find some place to turn around. I hated the rubber roof and the 13ft 6 in. height. Sold it this year and got our 89 AS Excella. Now pulling is fun and even with the many little AS problems of leaking and other qurks here and there I have a lot more peace of mind with the AS
knowing that I will never have to spend thousands to replace that rubber roof some day. Also did I mention the mostly rare pull through that will take a 38 ft plus the truck with out the need to unhook. I guess our last big trip out west, when I Dropped it on my truck bed doing $2000 damage, and the spring shackle on the 5th wheel braking loose allowing my rear tire to come forward to rub against my middle tire to start a smoke screen behind me, was the undoing of our love of the BIG RIG. We had to call in a mobile welder to reattach and reinforce the spring shackle. After I sold it the new owner found that the water run off from the A.C. was getting into the floor and rotted out about one Sq. foot of plywood and it's only 4 years old. I feel obligated to help him repair it since he lives only a mile from me. So I am still not rid of the responsibilty of the BIG RIG.~~~ NUFF said about the Huge upkeep and expense of a Big Rig. and the not so fun time transporting it.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:29 AM   #21
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My wife and I sold our 2004 30' Classic Ltd a year ago and bought a 2008 Newmar Kountry Aire 5th wheel this past spring. After spending most all of the past 5 months in the Newmar, we couldn't be more pleased with it.

Our Newmar is 40' long with 3 slideouts, and has a GVW of 20,000#. It has a full body paint job - the only white on it is the fiberglass roof - and rides on dual axles with dual tires on each (8 tires in total) with MOR-ryde suspension, a MOR-ryde pin box, and disc brakes.

Since about 6-7 feet of the 5th wheel rides over the bed of our truck, the total length that I'm towing behind my truck is not much different than it was with our Airstream. Granted, my average MPG when towing has declined appreciably - I believe by about 25% - and I had to buy a new truck to tow the 5th wheel (a 2008 F450 King Ranch) but the actual towing experience is much more pleasurable (and in my opinion, safe ).

For the most part, my wife and I set-up in one spot and stay there for the entire summer - about 4-4 1/2 months straight - so what works best for us now might be different if we wanted to move from place to place constantly.

We finally have a product that is quality built by an ethical company that stands behind their product; I could never say that about Thor and Airstream. Plus, the livability and comfort of the Newmar greatly surpasses anything in the Airstream. (Some of these many items include better and more comfortable chairs and sofa - finally, leather swiver recliners with foot rests! - a much larger and more comfortable bed -a king size , larger and better windows - thermopane - having better outside views, more storage inside and out, bigger and better bath and shower facilities, and larger televisions - 2 LCD HD flatscreens).

We paid a bit more for the 5th wheel than we would have if we would have bought a new Airsteaam, but not that much more.

In my opinion, the only thing that we have sacrificed is the fuel economy when towing, but that's inconsequential considering how we primarily use our trailer. Even if we traveled 1000's of miles in it every year, a couple hundred dollars more spent for fuel would be a small price to pay for the substantially better product we now have compared to the Airstream.
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:11 AM   #22
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Fifth wheels are an affordable alternative to MOHO's for those spending extended time at a given site. If I were setting up for the winter in Fla would consider one.
You don't see many on caravan though. Not really their nitch.

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