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05-26-2016, 08:50 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Bozeman
, Montana
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 253
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Airstream Risk Taking: It's not for the faint.
Greetings from Wyoming (high, wide, and handsome)... or is that Oklahoma.
At this point in life, I thought I was done with risky behavior. Not So!
In central Wyoming, parked at dusk, just to find out at dawn that we were in a risky situation. Not only were there wildlife (of a sort), but there was a cliff just meters away!
And Wyoming wind sucked the window right out of the trailer the same day!
Wyoming: not for the faint.
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Hank
WBCCI 1489 AIR 20708
2015 Chevy 3/4 ton 4 x 4 gas; 2007 Safari FB SE
"Its better to light just one candle than to curse the darkness,
Unless you're blinded by the light..."
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05-26-2016, 08:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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What, no hail?
Sorry for the window. How do you think that happened?
Kelvin
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2008 Classic 25fb "Silver Mistress"
2015 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins. Crew Cab, 4x4, Silver
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05-26-2016, 08:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,577
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Where did you park, them cows will chew and rub on your pickup thinking you are there to feed them.....
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05-26-2016, 08:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,076
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Ya got to mind that drivin' and parkin' in the dark.
Maggie
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🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚
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05-26-2016, 10:24 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Taos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 566
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Wyoming is the reason for the second "wild" in the saying - the wild wild west ...
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05-26-2016, 02:05 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Apopka
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 28
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I'm confused, what happened to the window? How did that happen?
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05-26-2016, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
, Nevada
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,703
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Them Wyoming Herefords and smart ones, indeed!
Well... them Wyoming Herefords are smart ones.
One got into that Airstream and 'unlatched the window' to get a better look from the outside. While traveling the window opened and just beat itself into parts and pieces. Then you stopped and the window frame closed, lacking most of the window, to conceal the evidence that a Herford was looking for that Mineral Salt Block on the bed.
Looks to me like the Bozeman Trail. The Texas cattle herds liked southern Wyoming for the flies and wind, better.
Next time... Eat Mo Chicken...
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Human Bean
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05-26-2016, 03:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 31' Classic
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Lenoir City
, Tennessee
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 264
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The windows are funny things. We had one blow out as we were driving down the highway. It had been securely latched. Could have been a passing truck kicked up something, or the trailer flexed and it didn't flex with it. Who knows. All of a sudden all that was left were the arms and latches - just like you see in Hank's picture. Fortunately, they're not hard to replace. We ordered one through a local airstream dealer and with the help of a very competent friend put the new one in. That was 3 years ago.
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Kelly & Matt
WBCCI - #4335
2005 Diesel Excursion
2008 31' Custom Classic "Moonshine"
2016 Interstate "BugOut"
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05-26-2016, 05:20 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1994 30' Excella
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 90
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One item on your pre-departure checklist should be to personally walk around the interior of the coach to ensure that all windows are closed and both latches are secure. But even then, stuff happens doesn't it?
Also, I make it a habit to brief all visitors and overnight guest that only I have the authority to open and close windows... years ago, I had briefed a visitor to use BOTH windows arms to adjust windows... but he forgot and tried to close a window using only one arm... good thing there was a Home Depot nearby...
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SPCLKAZ
94 30" Excella
99 GMC 3/4 Ton 6.0L
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05-27-2016, 07:18 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Bozeman
, Montana
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 253
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Response on the window
I believe it was a pressure differential. There was big wind that day.
An 18 wheeler passed me going the other way, and shook the trailer.
It was after that I noticed the arm sticking out the side of the trailer.
The vent was open on top.
So, I think conditions were just right. There was a low pressure spike
outside the trailer, and the inside pressure did not equalize quick enough,
so pushed the window out. How to prevent?
Possibly if I had the front top vent open. Possibly moved over a bit
when the truck passed. Possibly just not driven that day?
I am a firm proponent of the philosophy that if you live long enough, everything happens to you. Here is an example.
I recall 15 years ago driving in my government Bronco. Driving over
a pass, all of a sudden the rear window shatters. I thought it was
some anti-government type blazing away with a rifle,
but on further review, it was probably just strain on window
from the frame, combined with a wind shift.
And yes indeed, the teenage cattle were starting to bump the trailer,
so I had to get out to shoo them off.
And yes, indeed, it was near a historic trail (the Oregon Trail).
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Hank
WBCCI 1489 AIR 20708
2015 Chevy 3/4 ton 4 x 4 gas; 2007 Safari FB SE
"Its better to light just one candle than to curse the darkness,
Unless you're blinded by the light..."
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05-27-2016, 09:13 AM
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2020 Classic 33
Box Elder
, South Dakota
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,731
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Yep I see the etched wagon wheel tracks in the first photo....
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2020 Classic 33 Twin, 2019 Ram 3500 Longhorn, ProPride
NØVPN
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05-27-2016, 09:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,320
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Cows inherently like to rub their necks, heads, belly's and butts on things to scratch their itch. Not much different than me finding a corner to scratch my back. Cows look for trees, old fence posts, trucks and trailers. Since there were no trees or posts in your picture they were sizing your truck and trailer up for the best place to rub. They really mean no harm but will leave big dents, broken tail lights and usually lick the mirror before moving on.
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Steve, Christy, Anna and Phoebe (Border Collie)
1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley Arrow hitch with adjustable stinger
WBCCI # 3072
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05-27-2016, 10:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hshovic
I believe it was a pressure differential. There was big wind that day.
An 18 wheeler passed me going the other way, and shook the trailer.
It was after that I noticed the arm sticking out the side of the trailer.
The vent was open on top.
So, I think conditions were just right. There was a low pressure spike
outside the trailer, and the inside pressure did not equalize quick enough,
so pushed the window out.
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Thanks for the followup, but I must respectfully disagree with this logic.
There is no way that any pressure differential, alone, will blow out a tempered glass window which is fully locked iin place correctly. Just ain't gonna happen, unless there was already a defect in the edge of the window (exposed tempered glass edges are weak points), or a previously unknown defect on one of the surfaces, like a microscopic rock ding or something like that.
Or a rock was thrown up by the passing semi at just the right angle etc.. Given that you remember the semi, this is by far the likeliest cause IMO. That is a street-side window, under the awning with shorter arms, right?
Tempered glass WILL break very easily if hit by a hard object at just the right angle and velocity.
Ask me about the 1" bullet-proof glass window I was standing near, when a mason nearby -- chipping away at some concrete residue on the window jamb -- slipped and his hammer hit the bullet-proof glass . . .
BAM !!!
Like an explosion.
PS -- Bullet-proof glass is only bullet-proof for the first impact BTW.
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05-28-2016, 06:46 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Bozeman
, Montana
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 253
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And I could also agree. There could easily have been a rock or microscopic chip that weakened the window enough to allow a pressure blowout.
I think the pressure change had something to do with it.
And the wagon tracks in front of the truck were made after a very light rain. This is NOT a place you want to visit if the place is wet. I had mud on the tires all the way home.
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Hank
WBCCI 1489 AIR 20708
2015 Chevy 3/4 ton 4 x 4 gas; 2007 Safari FB SE
"Its better to light just one candle than to curse the darkness,
Unless you're blinded by the light..."
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05-30-2016, 08:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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A few years ago as I pulled our Trade Wind from it's covered port I felt a tug. I looked into the rear view mirror and saw that I had forgotten to close my street side front widow and it hooked onto the port cover upright pole. The '66's have curved frameless glass and it pulled loose from the clamp upper rail. The glass landed on it's edge, bounced a little on concrete.....and did NOT shatter. After a moment to close my mouth I went to my garage and grabbed a tube of silicone sealer and placed it with the window glass into the trailer and began our camping trip. At the campground it was a simple task to clean out the channel that holds the glass, fill it with silicone, close and latch the window and let it dry a day. That was several years ago. Of course silicone will not help a broken window but I wished to share my amazing experience.
NEIL
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Neil and Lynn Holman
FreshAir #12407
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Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.
1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
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1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
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