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Old 07-22-2016, 05:29 PM   #15
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Lightning Created fire OUT within two hours!

Within two hours this lightning created fire was... OUT.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:08 PM   #16
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Sad that in the 1940s when Smokey the Bear debuted, 90% of wildfires were started by humans. Today, 90% of wildfires are still started by humans. Despite being part of one of the most widely recognized public service ad campaigns ever, Smokey has been utterly ineffective in reducing the number of wildfires in the US.
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The smoke map's pretty interesting!
Thanks all of the links help a lot.
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Old 07-23-2016, 08:39 AM   #18
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We've got another Wyoming fire. This one is in the Bighorn NF up the road from us. It is in the Tensleep Canyon, about 7 miles east of Tensleep, WY. This one is growing quickly. 3000 acres in one day. Highway 16 is closed from west of Hazelton Road on the east side, to about Leigh Creek Campground on the west. There is a route around the closure, but Highway 14 through Dayton may be the best way to get over the Bighorns right now.

It got pretty smokey here last night, and looked like it was snowing a little bit from the ash falling out of the sky.
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A useful wildfire locator resource which I use both at home and while traveling is the iPhone /iPad app "US Fires" Developed by: P4G Pty Ltd. It derives from and is linked various sources including InciWeb and is very user-friendly, quickly displaying nearest fires to your location. We also use the app (free) "Code RED" for wildfire and other emergency alerts.

We've changed route more than once due to wildfires.

I'm looking at wildfire smoke across Wildcat Canyon from our home in Hesperus CO as I type.
Both I believe due to lightning strikes during thunderstorms.

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Just in Yellowstone for 4 beautiful days! No haze or smoke! Beautiful
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Ray, you start some very eclectic but interesting threads.

We lived in Boulder County about 3 miles from the first hills of the Front Range for 22 years. I can remember a few times when we could see and smell some pretty good sized fires from our back porch. Most of the fires in that area were caused by lightning. It was those darn careless thunderstorms.

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I have never been in a western forest despite working in Neb. and Wy. in 1960. Do they have fire cuts such as european countries do? these are permanent clear cuts if fires start they are contained to area between cuts, if US doesn't Why not? better to lose few trees than massive losses. These cuts could be harvested and used not wasted, or do tree huggers rule and forbid.
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Most prevention measures in US forests have been abandoned along with many of the fire breaks that you mention.

Cattle grazing has also become a no no, meaning that more grass and underbrush adds fuel to the fire.


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Most prevention measures in US forests have been abandoned along with many of the fire breaks that you mention.

Cattle grazing has also become a no no, meaning that more grass and underbrush adds fuel to the fire.


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This may be accurate in the eastern U.S. forests, but not in the western forests. In fact, I was at a meeting with the Forest Service just last night to discuss this topic. Unfortunately, it’s become a hugely complex issue. You can’t just go do a clear cut, or “fuel reduction project” anymore. They’ve got to consider safety, property rights, air pollution, threatened or endangered species, water impacts, access limitations, soil impacts, recreation impacts, viewshed impacts, timber value, socio-economic impacts, wildlife impacts, grazing impacts, environmentalist objections, etc. etc. Therefore, it’s not uncommon for the planning for a fuels project to take 2-3 years. Then, if the project involves a controlled burn, you’ve got to wait for the right conditions, which could take several more years. Because of all this the projects seem to be smaller, but more scientifically based. The project we were discussing last night involved modeling burn patterns. With the model, the thought was that they could treat a small area that would essentially cut the “fuse” that would carry the fire, and stop the spread. It’s quite fascinating.

Also, grazing is very common. In our area, all public lands are open to grazing unless it is precluded for a specific reason. So most lands are grazed. Some areas have sensitive habitats that make it incompatible for grazing, and those are carefully identified.
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What I saw in europe was not back fired cuts but clean cuts, but tree huggers in this country rule over common sense letting billions of dollars wasted because of wild fires plus lives lost because we can't do these things as other countries do.
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I get a kick out of the graphs. It appears the percentage of human caused fires is lowest where the population is density is lowest and thunderstorms are more prevalent. I wonder what fool paid to have that study done.

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P.S. I think the flowers after your name just went up in smoke.
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The Bighorn National Forest just posted new fire restrictions today. they're very restrictive.Bighorn Fire Restrictions 2016.pdf
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