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Old 05-01-2015, 09:22 PM   #43
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We have 80mph sections of the freeway too. We'll be driving to Boise to pickup our Airstream in a couple of weeks and have never towed anything.
At this point, I think I'm more scared than excited.
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Old 05-01-2015, 09:29 PM   #44
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I've seen cars fly by when I'm going 75—they must be from Wyoming. There are very few green plates (actually, white on green) in Colorado any more. The colors were reversed about 10 years ago, but Wyomingites still call us "greenies". I don't know what to call Wyomingites—there are so few of them anyway. They have a bucking horse on their plates which means less space for numbers and letters, but they don't have more than a few thousand cars trucks; they mostly drive tractors. Since everyone in Colorado is stoned, we drive about 35 at best, even in Wyoming. It sure feels fast.

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Yea Gene, they do still call you Greenies, at least my wife does, but she's from Fort Collins. The Colorado plates are really conspicuous up here. So many folks from Colorado seem to be in a big ol' hurry. But maybe it's just me becoming an old slow fuddy-duddy. I can't suggest any nick-names for Wyomingites, at least ones that I could say in polite company.
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I travel at 60-65 by default in the right lane. I suppose if the traffic was at 80 solid I might push up to 70 but would rather not cruise long periods beyond that for noise, fuel ,etc. The tires aren't rated for it anyways.

Personally I think anyone going 45MPH on a full access highway is more dangerous than someone going 80MPH with their vehicle maintained and paying attention. The cops have discretion to give a ticket for going too slow at say, 50, if the speed limit is higher and the flow of traffic is higher.

500,000 highway miles and I've never had a scary problem with trucks. They can't accelerate that fast, they often can't stop that fast (even with airbrakes/engine,especially if loaded), and if they throw tire chunks it's to the side not straight behind. Also they give you sense of wind up ahead, and there's a moderate draft in behind them. The operators generally know how to drive.

People in cars however are a squirrely menace. Go speed racer wannabes, people who can't see over the dashboard, cell phone soccer moms, urban assault vehicles driven by little people, etc.
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We have 80mph sections of the freeway too. We'll be driving to Boise to pickup our Airstream in a couple of weeks and have never towed anything.
At this point, I think I'm more scared than excited.

Don't be scared. Just take your time hitching up. Make sure everything is done as well as can be, then head out. Take your time, pay attention to your surroundings, and keep a good distance between you and whatever is in front of you. You'll get the hang of it.
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People in cars however are a squirrely menace. Go speed racer wannabes, people who can't see over the dashboard, cell phone soccer moms, urban assault vehicles driven by little people, etc.
You know, I can handle the urban assault vehicles and the folks who can't see over the dashboard, but........

I wish I had a device that would vaporize cell phones that are being abused while driving. Lately, I don't hesitate to blow the horn when I can see someone busy on their cell phone when it's time to "GO".
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:04 AM   #48
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We have 80mph sections of the freeway too. We'll be driving to Boise to pickup our Airstream in a couple of weeks and have never towed anything.
At this point, I think I'm more scared than excited.
When we picked up our trailer, I knew what a departure checklist was. But I figured I didn't need it the first day, after all the dealer would be there to help me, etc. That was a mistake. So I learned to use my departure checklist always. In subsequent years this has been reinforced during my first tow of the year. I've forgotten to close windows, etc. on the 20 mile tow from storage to home. No dire consequences, yet, but gives me an Oh Sh__ moment when I get home. So that reminds me to really use the departure checklist.

As for speeders, I poke on a 60 mph. I figure the only vehicle on the road I can control is mine. If there are a bunch of speeders pulling dangerously in front of me from both sides, I do the only thing I can to improve safety - I slow down, giving me more room, which equals more time in the event anything happens. I pick my speed, they pick theirs.

Maybe the last item on the departure checklist should be "Don't go too fast"
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The better way to control space in front of your vehicle is to keep 6 (or 7) seconds between you and the car ahead. Leave the house 6 seconds sooner.
To gauge 6 seconds, let the car ahead pass a stationary object (street sign, intersection, tree, etc.). Then begin to count one thousand one, one thousand two...one thousand six. If you get to the stationary object before "one thousand six" slow down to create more space.
In some of the more recent defensive driving courses I've taken, they recommend a minimum 4-second rule… increased by one second for each adverse condition. For example:
Add one second to your interval if you're pulling a trailer.
Add another second if the pavement is wet.
Add another second if it's raining or foggy.
Add another second at night.
Add another second if someone is tailgating you since your brakes will have to stop him as well when he rear-ends you as soon as you hit your brakes.
And so on. Of course this establishes the minimum following distance; if you elect to establish an even longer interval, there's no harm in it.

The thing that alarms me on a regular basis— at least in Louisiana— is being passed by six or seven cars, all following each other closer than my toad is following me; there isn't even a towbar-length between any of them, let alone a car-length. Do they not understand that if something happens to the first one in line, they're all going to win a trip to the emergency room… or the morgue?

For me, the ideal situation is, everybody ahead of me is pulling farther ahead, and everyone behind me is falling farther behind. The first part is often true; the second part no so much.
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We have 80mph sections of the freeway too. We'll be driving to Boise to pickup our Airstream in a couple of weeks and have never towed anything.
At this point, I think I'm more scared than excited.
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Be more excited and don't be scared, nervous sure, not scared. It's an exciting experience and one that will surely change your life, for the better as it has almost all of us on here. Make sure you get some proper instructions as to driving the AS, backing etc. and then move out. She will follow. We drove all around UT last year and loved every minute of it, found roads to be great and better drivers than back east or down south on the whole. Travel in your own comfort zone and enjoy the trip, you only get to pick this unit up once. Fear should not be apart of the experience.

We like it so much we are going to visit UT again this summer, along with the rest of the West, but spend a majority of time in UT.

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Old 05-02-2015, 09:06 AM   #51
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I haven't been in 80 MPH states very much. Interstate speed limits are 75 here. It's kind of a drag when I get into some midwestern states where it's only 65 or 70. As far as towing the TT though, I keep it around 65 or so (no need to stress myself, the TV or the AS). My largest complaint by far is being cut off by non towing drivers. It's my assumption that they don't want to get stuck behind a slower moving vehicle pulling a trailer. It has made for some interesting braking situations...
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The thing that alarms me on a regular basis— at least in Louisiana— is being passed by six or seven cars, all following each other closer than my toad is following me; there isn't even a towbar-length between any of them, let alone a car-length. Do they not understand that if something happens to the first one in line, they're all going to win a trip to the emergency room… or the morgue?
But they did it twice as fast last sunday at Talladega Superspeedway.
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In some of the more recent defensive driving courses I've taken, they recommend a minimum 4-second rule… increased by one second for each adverse condition. For example:

Add one second to your interval if you're pulling a trailer.

Add another second if the pavement is wet.

Add another second if it's raining or foggy.

Add another second at night.

Add another second if someone is tailgating you since your brakes will have to stop him as well when he rear-ends you as soon as you hit your brakes.

And so on. Of course this establishes the minimum following distance; if you elect to establish an even longer interval, there's no harm in it.



The thing that alarms me on a regular basis— at least in Louisiana— is being passed by six or seven cars, all following each other closer than my toad is following me; there isn't even a towbar-length between any of them, let alone a car-length. Do they not understand that if something happens to the first one in line, they're all going to win a trip to the emergency room… or the morgue?



For me, the ideal situation is, everybody ahead of me is pulling farther ahead, and everyone behind me is falling farther behind. The first part is often true; the second part no so much.

The distance should be 4 seconds at speeds up to 35-40 mph and 6 seconds at speeds above 40.
I don't even like the term "defensive driving" because sometimes one has to be "offensive" to avoid an accident and stay safe. Responsible, courteous driving is a better term.


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Yes, definitely increase following distance according to different situations.
4 seconds up to 40 and 6 seconds above 40 is for ideal conditions- dry, sunshine, mild temperatures-
Add darkness, rain, traffic, etc. and the following distance should be increased.
Slow down is the answer to many dangers on the road-
It's raining. Slow down.
It's dark. Slow down.
There's a lot of traffic. Slow down.


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When I stated 1 car length for every 10 mph was what I was told at 2 dif. mandatory driving classes, evidently instructor was not versed on this. PS the instructor at both classes is retired POLICE OFFICER, also he was wrong about a few other things that he taught, when Il. rules state dif.
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