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Old 04-09-2018, 05:25 AM   #29
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I thought the 50 to 30 dogbone was a standard accessory and, in fact, my dealer gave us one when we picked up the rig. Surprised you don't have one. No issues whatsoever. In fact, at many full hookup parks the 30 amp receptacles are worn and loose - a disaster waiting to happen. Frequently, when 50 amp is available I'll pick that over a loose 30 amp. The 4 prongs of the 50 are much more secure than the three of the 30.
It's most likely a dealer gift.
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Old 04-09-2018, 07:35 AM   #30
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It's most likely a dealer gift.


You are correctÖ Itís up to the dealer regarding what additional accessories they want to include in the sale to include 15 and 30 amp adapters waste hose, toiletry products, etc. etc.

I believe that the only thing that Airstream will include is the original 50 amp power cord and some tools for the awning, etc.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:39 AM   #31
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They're not expensive.
I kept a 50 to 30, a 30 to 50, a 30 to 15/20.
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:03 AM   #32
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I do not agree with the last sentence. The trailer can TRY to draw, but the current will be limited by the 30 amp breaker at the trailer. Also, the outlet will not be melted because it too is protected by the 30 amp breaker at the trailer..
Thanks everyone for the feedback to my question. It is basically what I was thinking and the feedback explains the "why" of my question. I did want to point out one other factor to consider. In a perfect world you would think the breaker at the source of power or the breaker in the RV would trip if too much power is pushed or pulled.

If you look at post #11 in the "50A Monster" thread there is a video of what can go wrong. This guy had a Class A RV with 50 Amp service. He used a dogbone to connect from his 50 Amp receptacle to a 20 Amp power outlet. He had a 25-50' 20Amp extension cord connected with the dogbone to his 50Amp cable. He then turned on his AC in the RV along with other items so he was drawing more than 20 Amps of power.

The AC ran for about 15 minutes and then cut off. It was at that point he noticed the 20Amp extension cord was melting and on fire. So, the 20 Amp breaker did trip to cut power to the RV but not before a fire started from the melting cord. Luckily he was at his RV and was able to put out the fire.

Seems to me you still need to be aware of how much power you are drawing and use the proper cords in any situation where your RV has the ability to draw more Amps than your power source is providing. i.e. a) 50 Amp RV but at 30Amp power source or b) 30Amp RV but a 20 amp power source.
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:06 AM   #33
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Common sense is not so common any more....
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Old 04-10-2018, 01:16 PM   #34
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Common sense is not so common any more....
Let's not be negative. The concept of "common sense" only applies to topics that virtually anyone and everyone is expected to have learned something about by the time they reach adulthood. Electricity, on the other hand, is a subject that is not taught to every child as they're growing upó beyond the "don't stick your finger in that light socket!" level.

Therefore, one cannot expect the concept of "common sense" to apply to the subject of electricity, unless one is holding a conversation at the local electricians' union hall.
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Old 04-10-2018, 01:23 PM   #35
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I really appreciate the OP asking this question!óand I equally appreciate all this feedback. Iíve had similar questions recently, but the OP phrased them better than I.
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Old 04-10-2018, 03:27 PM   #36
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Here's the problem with trying to explain 50 amp vs. 30 amp.
Everyone tries to make it a scientific explanation that covers every wiring job. Therefore, the explanation gets so convoluted that the person asking is more confused than before. "Phase? Do I have single phase?"
Or, one can stick to the simple answer, and I guarantee someone will point out the one in a million exceptions that make your explanation invalid. (like 240v. RV appliances)

I tend to go with, "Keep it simple, it ain't rocket surgery." Once you see the concept, the light bulb goes off. "Oh, I get it!"
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Old 04-10-2018, 03:48 PM   #37
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They make both external and internal surge protectors. The external is easy to connect, but open to theft. Do you have insurance on your AS? If so, then why would you not want a surge protector to insure that your sensitive electronics and electrical items do not get fried? ....just saying ...
We use ours without fail ...just wish it was internal. Yes to the "dog bone" as well ...
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:45 PM   #38
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They make both external and internal surge protectors. The external is easy to connect, but open to theft.
We use ours without fail ...just wish it was internal.
A determined thief will take anything, but I used this on my surge protector.
The cable fits in the anti-theft ring of the Progressive Surge protector. I do a couple wraps around the power post and snug it up.
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:47 AM   #39
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I use this 30 amp model for our 30 amp power rated 23D and their 50 amp model for our Classic with 50 amp service.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...oop_bw_c_x_3_w


Thank you so much Ė I think this is exactly what Iím looking for. Just to be clear on a couple items:
1) it appears this is a 30 amp male and 30 amp female connection on this surge protector. Iím guessing I plug the male end of my airstream Power cord into the female end of the surge protector, and then plug the male end of the surge protector plug (which is a 30a male) into a dog bone that has a 50 amp plug on the end and then plug that 50 amp male on the end of the dog bone into the RV park power outlet. Is that right?
2) if so, then this unit sits outside on the ground, so Iím guessing itís waterproof and weatherproof. Is that right?
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You do not need to have the dog bone as there is a simple plug adaptor available generally at any RV store. It is a good idea to carry a dog bone which fits your trailer power socket and adapts to a common 2 prong plus ground connection since many state and national parks may have only the household type outlet. One never has too much water hose or extension cord.
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You do not need to have the dog bone as there is a simple plug adaptor available generally at any RV store. It is a good idea to carry a dog bone which fits your trailer power socket and adapts to a common 2 prong plus ground connection since many state and national parks may have only the household type outlet. One never has too much water hose or extension cord.
JUST PLAIN DANGEROUS , do not do that !

The so called " common 2 prong plus ground " - is a 15 amp outlet , most of the trailers being talked about here have 30 amp plug on there trailer .
This may not damage your trailer , but will most likely blow there breaker - then you have no power , and multiple tries at this will burn out the outlet , making replacement necessary .
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:12 AM   #42
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JUST PLAIN DANGEROUS , do not do that !

The so called " common 2 prong plus ground " - is a 15 amp outlet , most of the trailers being talked about here have 30 amp plug on there trailer .
This may not damage your trailer , but will most likely blow there breaker - then you have no power , and multiple tries at this will burn out the outlet , making replacement necessary .
My Safari is plugged in using this adapter right now and has been for most of the 8+ years that I have owned it. This is while stored at my house keeping the battery charged. For the last 4 years I leave it over the winter while I'm in FL for 6 months, it never tripped. There has been no damage to anything.
I also use this adapter while boondocking, plugged into the duplex outlet on my Honda 2000. No problems there, even when using 120v appliances (microwave, coffee pot, hair drier- one at a time)
Specifically what is dangerous?

ps: this is on is a 15 amp duplex outlet on a 20 amp 120vac circuit.
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