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Old 09-22-2016, 11:53 AM   #15
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Go with the 250 diesel. As said earlier, if for no other reason than the exhaust brake going down hill
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:03 PM   #16
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Trying to decide between a 2017 f150 and the f250 for towing a 30' airstream.. This is our first airstream and we are having to upgrade to a new truck because our old f150 can't tow the trailer. The new f150 has much better towing - but those of you who tow the 30' what would you choose?
I have been towing our 2013 30' International with our 2012 F-150 Ecoboost
for 3 years. The truck has 90,000 miles on it and we decided to order a 2017 F-250 with the diesel and all the bells and whistles.
The F-150 Ecoboost has performed admirably and never let us down on any mountain road. However we were always maxed out on the payload and there was no margin for error in towing either. That becomes tiring when you are on the road for several weeks.
For a brief moment I was considering to get the 2017 F-150 since it does have 2000# payload. Than I realized I would be once again loaded to the max without any margin for comfort.
The F-250 will most likely be my last truck so I am looking forward to a more relaxed traveling.
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:32 PM   #17
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I count about a five to one ratio in favor of the 250. Make that six to one with my vote.
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Old 09-22-2016, 04:02 PM   #18
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I had the same question back in May when I started out. My choices: 2016 Classic and F250 Diesel. I had enough other things to learn without second guessing myself about having enough TV. Safety first! And for me that means having enough of the "right" equipment.
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:52 PM   #19
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I tow a 30' FC with a 2015 F-150, 3.5 Ecoboost, 3.55 final drive, max tow package, The Cloud averages about 7800-8000 lbs loaded, (two people). the Ford is rated for 12,800 tow wt., and the whole package is rated at 14, 200 lbs. I have weighed it at 12,200+/- a little. So definately not near max.
The Ford handles the FC quite well with a Husky Ezy-tow hitch, and friction sway bars.
(I was very disappointed with the performance of a Reese Dual Cam hitch, and have the complete assy. for sale.
Tomorrow, Friday, I'm hitting the road again, with a very comfortable trailer.
The direct injection is ancient technology, used by the Germans in WW2, and have finally come into it's own here, c'w turbocharging..
This configuration is as good as it gets.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:52 PM   #20
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Trying to decide between a 2017 f150 and the f250 for towing a 30' airstream.. This is our first airstream and we are having to upgrade to a new truck because our old f150 can't tow the trailer. The new f150 has much better towing - but those of you who tow the 30' what would you choose?
I would not get a 150. We just purchased a 2016 F250 for our new 30' AS classic. We love the 250 diesel. Always go for a little more than you need to protect your assets. i hear the 2017 has a bigger fuel tank which would be awesome. Good luck with your purchase.
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:01 PM   #21
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Growing up, my dad told me, "If you want to tow anything more than a small utility trailer, get an F250."

That is one piece of his advice I followed and am glad I did.

I sure wish I had followed his advice on some other things!
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:07 PM   #22
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Very interesting. Although we like our Tundra for its bullet proof reliability after the past few trips I'm tired of its struggles to tow our 25' AS. Though it is rated for over 10,000 lbs, it shifts up and down even on the flats driving me nuts. Mountains leave me practly pushing my right foot through the floor. My 07 wasn't this way but the 12 is. The new f150 has a 10 speed automatic, even more shifting? Think we're going with the diesel f250. Haven't seen anyone post that they were sorry they pull with a diesel but there seem to be many questions about any of the half tons. Thanks for the information it is helping with our decision. PS is it possible to use the cruse control on eother the half ton or three quarter diesel Ford and under what conditions, flat and or mountains.
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:17 PM   #23
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This might be ridiculous, but I think it would be awesome if Ford came out with a larger ecoboost. The 3.5 does great for what it is, but a larger turbo charged gas engine would be amazing in a 250. The diesel emissions stuff scares me, I'm sure it scares others as well. I think the ecoboost might be the best of both worlds, a lighter engine (more payload) and respectable torque. No worries about biodiesel here!
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:45 PM   #24
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2017 f150 vs 250 towing vehicle

cando, I haven't regretted choosing a diesel, although mine is a dinosaur compared to the new ones (1995 PowerStroke). It only has 119K miles on it and I plan on keeping it forever.

The Owners Manual for my old truck says it's OK to tow with cruise on. Can't imagine using it in hilly or mountainous areas.

If I wanted to spend big money on a new one, I don't think I'd shy away from a diesel. I'm a stickler for keeping up with oil changes and other scheduled maintenance, so I would do the same with a new truck. The new ones are much more complicated due to EPA trying to kill diesels, but I would expect that a new truck will give you good service as long as you keep up with the maintenance and don't abuse it. You can find a good used one if you know what to look for, but you'd better KNOW what to look for.
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Old 09-23-2016, 02:23 AM   #25
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This might be ridiculous, but I think it would be awesome if Ford came out with a larger ecoboost. The 3.5 does great for what it is, but a larger turbo charged gas engine would be amazing in a 250. The diesel emissions stuff scares me, I'm sure it scares others as well. I think the ecoboost might be the best of both worlds, a lighter engine (more payload) and respectable torque. No worries about biodiesel here!
x2. That would be ideal. Rumors are there is a 5.0 ecoboost in the works for super duty trucks.
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:49 PM   #26
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If you like stress and pushing boundaries get the 150 with the 3.5L ecoboost engine. If you prefer calm, serene towing experiences get the 250 with the 6.7L TD engine. We did and would do again. No doubts.

I've spoken to many folk that praise the smaller truck and recall their positive comments. I remain suspicious but accept their testimony. However, my personal experience, based on my desire for "calm/serene towing," 25'+ trailers are best towed by 3/4 vs 1/2 ton trucks. Best of luck in any decision made.
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Old 09-23-2016, 05:07 PM   #27
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Though I haven't pulled my 2015 28FC with it yet, I just picked up my 2017 F250 Platinum 6.7 diesel last week and I love the way it drives so far. Have about 1,000 miles on it so far and very pleased. For the last two years pulled the 28 with a 2015 F150 Platinum 3.5 EcoBoost. As many have said, it pulls it fine. But with most of my travels (about 30,000 miles in last yr or so) being out West, I wanted more beef to handle the load and hills.

I think the F150 is a wonderful truck and have really enjoyed mine. But in reviewing all of our travels and talking with others, I made the decision to upgrade to a truck I know will handle the hills fine, with the benefit of the exhaust brake and all the while getting better mileage. I am looking forward to our next trip starting next week heading out to Balloon Fiesta.

For those that mentioned the aluminum body and insurance costs, there really wasn't much difference in going from my 2011 F150 to the 2015 F150 and the cost for going to the F250 was basically a couple of dollars more a year. The cost to repair the aluminum is a little higher but not that much more if you go to certified body shop.

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Old 09-23-2016, 05:21 PM   #28
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Payload on the new 2017 F250 diesels looks to be 2000 to 2100. With the 6.2L V8 you add another 700lbs roughly of payload. Might as well go with an F350 if chasing diesel. As for diesel emissions they are a concern with me as I'm a first time diesel owner but with a 2015 Ram Cummins. So far no issues with DEF or using Bio blends a few times. The DEF is a bit of a pain. The dealers charge an arm and a leg if you have them top up the DEF during an oil change, retail is cheaper but still expensive and truck stop bulk DEF the cheapest but probably $2 to $3 per gallon. I have to drive to the other end of town to get bulk DEF about 20 miles. While DEF doesn't break the bank its an inconvenience. Diesel pumps are often stinky and I have to use disposable gloves so I don't get diesel residue on my steering wheel after pumping. I love the power and the exhaust brake for hills. It's too bad Ford didn't come out with a new gas engine for the 2017 F250. The 6.2L seems an old technology engine but should be solid but gas mileage is terrible from what I've read. It's pulling a lot of weight solo and when adding a trailer it the mileage suffers more.

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