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Old 08-11-2013, 06:32 PM   #1
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Travelux VIN #

We have a 20 ft 1973 Travelux that we brought down to NY from Canada. Before I can register it I need to find the VIN # on the trailer. I know there was a sticker to the right of the door that posted the VIN but it's long gone. I've looked on the frame and inside cabinets and I'm stumped. Can anyone help?
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:58 PM   #2
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There was a spec sheet pasted to the inside of a cupboard door on mine.
I haven't seen a number anywhere else.

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from EHOW;
Airstream has been building aluminum travel trailers since the 1930s. The trailers' distinctive rounded shape minimized wind resistance and made them more stable while being towed. The serial number or vehicle identification number (VIN) of an Airstream trailer provides information about its place of manufacture, body style, size and model year. The serial number is stamped into the A-frame of the trailer just behind the hitch. In some models there is also a plate affixed to the side of the trailer near the main door.

Read more: How to Research Airstream Travel Trailers by Their Number | eHow

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Hi Travelux 20,
Did you ever find a VIN? My '78 has sheet in the cupboard like Evalu8r's. But there is also a second area on exterior as seen in this picture I captured off the net (that may not have existed on some earlier models. I.E. they started this practice after a certain year ? verification anyone) It is on the lower front on non-door side along with another "official" Transport Canada sticker.
Who knows, maybe your model year had it in just the owners manual? Why they did not stamp it in the metal we will never know.
I don't see a "T" starting this VIN pictured ...could be faded. Mine starts with T78, yours VIN would have started T20 then year 73 then month 06 then # of that model built that year or # built period (?) So like so.....T20730X0XX
I want to get Travelux owners to put forward their VINS so we can piece together dates of model changes etc. I will start a thread for that eventually.
Possible overzealous polishing/cleaning and/or age has damaged some out there.
If you finally did get it registered with out original VIN, tell us how that went.
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My error above. I say my VIN starts with a T78....that should read T31....as in Travelux 31 feet
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Travelux VIN

Thank you for the responses. We never did find the VIN anywhere on the trailer /frame. I believe it was on a sticker that originally was outside, to the right of the door. I can see the ghost of that sticker but it's long gone. I do have the registration from Ontario with the VIN written on it but what confused me is the fact that the # is only 6 characters long. DMV initially told me that couldn't be the VIN as VIN's are 17 characters. Well after some research, I was able to remind them that VIN's in the US and Canada did not become standardized until 1981. My trailer is a 1973. So we're all set. We're getting the linoleum set down later this week and taking it out to Cape Cod as a silver tent. We'll spend the long winter putting the innards back in.
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I'm in the same boat; no VIN number anywhere, just a four-digit number for the bill of sale from the previous owner. Once mine is roadworthy, I'll need to get a VIN from the Alberta government. Insurance Bureau of Canada ViN application info.
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I just finished sand blasting my frame and looked over it and the tongue very closely for any numbers...none anywhere. Mine to, had a faded sticker on the outside which is gone now but I was lucky to have a manufacturers label on a cupboard door. My vin # is 11 digits - 2102790xxxx Its a 1978 model 21.
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I'm in the same boat; no VIN number anywhere, just a four-digit number for the bill of sale from the previous owner. Once mine is roadworthy, I'll need to get a VIN from the Alberta government. Insurance Bureau of Canada ViN application info.
Did the previous owner not have it registered and have a permit? You may not need to create a VIN if its sitting in a file at your Alberta transport offices. Trying to keep the original VIN is important for the continued documentation of the Travelux history. Just a suggestion.
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I just finished sand blasting my frame and looked over it and the tongue very closely for any numbers...none anywhere. Mine to, had a faded sticker on the outside which is gone now but I was lucky to have a manufacturers label on a cupboard door. My vin # is 11 digits - 2102790xxxx Its a 1978 model 21.
Evalu8r, Your VIN is a bit curious. As far as I know at this time of the company there were no 21 footers in the literature (see that pdf that's in the forums). Just 25', 29', 31'. They say interior of the 25' is 21'. Yet your VIN starts with a "21". Interesting. Custom? or the 1 should be a 5? I see that it reads 21' on your cupboard sheet too. Have you measured the exterior?

Also, if following the other VIN layouts we have seen the "79' means 1979 and the "0x" after the 79 is the month (so wonder why the "02" before the 79?). The number after the zero (790x) might be the month and the "02" in front may be a custom 21' designation? How have you determined it's a 1978?
I think the business died in early to mid 1979 (Zero evidence of '80's trailers) so any one with '79s have the last ones. Who has the very last one? Hope the above makes sense ....I want to crack the VIN code!
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LuckyLux - That was a typeo on my part, it should have been 1979. The documentation that I have from the previous owner shows he purchased it from Northbound R.V. in Shanty Bay in 1994 and I haven't chased it back any further then that.

It is interesting, I haven't seen another photo of a Tlux like mine nor have I found any info such as a floor plan on the 21'er. Yes, I've measured it, bumper to tongue is 21' interior is 17'.
Going to measure the exterior now
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In my research, the first # in the VIN indicates the country where the trailer/vehicle was built. Canada's # is 2. It doesn't have anything to do with the trailer size.
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Also, if following the other VIN layouts we have seen the "79' means 1979 and the "0x" after the 79 is the month (so wonder why the "02" before the 79?). The number after the zero (790x) might be the month and the "02" in front may be a custom 21' designation? How have you determined it's a 1978?
I think the business died in early to mid 1979 (Zero evidence of '80's trailers) so any one with '79s have the last ones. Who has the very last one? Hope the above makes sense ....I want to crack the VIN code!
From what I've read your break down sounds about right.

Now, on the receipt from the previous owner of my unit, Northbound R.V. has "210" written down in the box that indicates the model. ?

So this is how I figured the VIN break down might be:
VIN- 21027903128
210 -model designation / length of unit
2 - a country or weight class
79 - model year
03 - month of production
128 - production number

What month did Travelux stop production and how many units did put out in 1979. Good question. Who has the last one and where is it?
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Appreciate Evalu8r's VIN being thrown up. Great discussion started! OK, here's my "cupboard" shot.
On the TinCan Tourists site there was a was a breakdown of someone's thoughts on VIN rollout here. travelux [Tin Can Tourists Wiki]
Like this:
"Serial number breakdown
a nn nn nn nnn
T size year month production-number"

I add, and speculating so far, the "T" only happened last few years. Evalu8r's VIN blows that theory but his seems special in layout and size offered at the time. To be verified.

So, following above..... Re: my VIN....
VIN- T317804058
T - Travelux
31 - size/ length of unit
78 - model year
04 - month of production
058 - production number

But as we see with other VIN's it's not as neat and tidy as that. (This was pre standardization of 1981, thanks Travelux 20 for that) I think they got into a good and understandable rhythm near the end (but I have not seen enough of the older ones) But it was always understandable to the person who came up with it.

OTHER TRAVELUX OWNERS - Please throw your VIN into the mix and let's crack this!
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From what I've read your break down sounds about right.

Now, on the receipt from the previous owner of my unit, Northbound R.V. has "210" written down in the box that indicates the model. ?

So this is how I figured the VIN break down might be:
VIN- 21027903128
210 -model designation / length of unit
2 - a country or weight class
79 - model year
03 - month of production
128 - production number

What month did Travelux stop production and how many units did put out in 1979. Good question. Who has the last one and where is it?
Evalu8r,
I think Northbound R.V. was lazy and did not know. They sold used units as a business so just pushed them out.
Now that I see your 11 digit VIN (as opposed to my 10 digit)
I speculate this......(keep in mind these are typed sheets, subject to error)
21 - length (length always different to body size)
02 - (floor plan???)
79 - model year
03 - month of production
128 - production number (REALLY??? between Jan and Mar they built 128??? in what I think is last year of production. It was a small plant relatively)
Questions continue......

I think Travelux was in receivership in summer of '79 so bank probably selling off any remaining units/parts at that point
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From what I had researched I thought it was odd that my VIN didnt have a "T" at the start. I wonder at what point did they go from a 10 digit VIN number to an 11. Maybe in 1979 they dropped the T and started using eleven digits.
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In my research, the first # in the VIN indicates the country where the trailer/vehicle was built. Canada's # is 2. It doesn't have anything to do with the trailer size.
As you noted. This may apply after '81. Does not apply prior. Your first digit had it been there would have meant 20 feet
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I like your theory on my VIN. I also though as I was breaking down my VIN that the production number didn't really make sense. Too high for a three month period, especially when you consider yours is the 58th unit in a four month time frame.
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Found this on RV talk last year, it's the same model, year and floor plan as mine.

"traveluxeast
11-14-2009, 01:15 PM
Hey RogerH. Here is some more info for your file on Travelux trailers.

I have a 21' Travelux Serial # 21047912106, built at 401 Dissette Street, in Bradford, Ontario. I am presuming that 1979 was the year for construction (clever analysis of serial #). The trailer, however, is white, which appears to be quite unusual. It has a dinette in the front and a couch/bed at the rear. Bath is opposite the door. It is in excellent shape, and it pulls wonderfully. Two axels are so much better than one. If you would like a photo or two, please let me know. Also, if you have any info on my trailer, I would be pleased to know more"

So this throws as twist into our theory,
21' Travelux Serial # 21047912106:
21 - length
04 - maybe this is the month of production
79 - model year
12 - ?? production number
106 -

It sure would be nice to get Roger Holiday on here and get his in put to figure this out.
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Travelux info:
Canadian trade-mark data: 294802 - Canadian trade-marks database - Intellectual property and copyright - Canadian Intellectual Property Office - Industry Canada
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