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Old 03-25-2007, 09:02 AM   #1
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The return of the Argosy.....

I seem to recall rumors that the Argosy line may return. I thought that was interesting, because the Argosy was a great RV that I thought matched the spirit of Airstream.

I was on the Airstream site yesterday and noticed that in their t-shirt section of their store, they now have an Argosy t-shirt.

Not that a t-shirt indicates a direction, but could there be some truth to the rumors of a comeback of the Argosy line?
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Thanks for the info.. I'm not certain I want the Argosy to return, kind of stuck on the classic thing. I love my Argosy and wonder if Airstream can do them justice today. I ordered the t-shirt to wear when camping in my Twink. Thanks again for letting us know Airstream has at last remembered that they once made a great cream trailer.
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Old 03-25-2007, 09:55 AM   #3
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I guess it's always possible that there could be some pricing side that would allow the Argosy to sell at a reduced cost. I'm just wondering if they could build a non aluminum version of an Airstream. We know that the endcaps weren't aluminum, but I think the side panels were. The end caps could be formed in fiberglass. Not sure what componet would be used for the side panels.

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you know, it wouldn't be too hard to form the whole thing out of fiberglass - heaven knows THOR has the ability to do it... think SOB with an Argosy shape. I'd like to see one (fiberglass) with COLOR other than white, with the CCD interior for about 20K less than the Airstreams. I'd buy one! A soft yellow, or copper or blue would be cool! Front wrap around windows would be a must!

Anybody from the factory listening?
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:26 AM   #5
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Nah - They wouldn't - Would they? - You think? - Long live the rummer mill.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:51 AM   #6
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They paint airplanes, donít they?

Marc,

Iíve been learning, on my main thread and now here, that you and I share a design aesthetic.

Iíd like to see coloured Airstreams too. They paint airplanes, donít they?

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Old 03-25-2007, 11:06 AM   #7
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Yes Sergei - we DO think alike. I wish I was closer, I'd love to come over and talk Argosy's for a while! Yes, colors would be fun!

David - I think we're thinking Argosy trailers here. : >
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Yup, I know, it's ok. I just saw the thread and was interested as I recently sold a 1978 27' bunk option Argosy. It was pretty cool and I like argosys.

The reason I brought up the MoHo question is because of the big flap over Airstream thinking of re-badging Plastic SOB MoHo's. Many of Airstream's new ideas showed up on the Argosy before incorporating the feature on Airstreams including The first mohos'

I'll butt out now!
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An Argosy painted something other than white? With a CCD interior? Who would want that?
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FIBERGLASS? Please not that!
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Thumbs up Bring it on back....

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FIBERGLASS? Please not that!
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I'd like to see one (fiberglass).....for about 20K less than the Airstreams. I'd buy one!
Yes, Yes, Yes!!! Bring it on. Who can realistically afford a new Airstream? Airstream needs to recall what made the Argosy line popular and go retro with a contemporary twist If they put me in the focus group I would suggest a budget model, all fiberglass or whatever is economical, beginning in a Bambi size or smaller for less than 15k. A return to ultra-light weight is key too.

I think that Argosys could fly again...

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Old 03-25-2007, 03:49 PM   #12
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An Argosy painted something other than white? With a CCD interior? Who would want that?
Uuuuhhhhh.......
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Old 03-25-2007, 04:30 PM   #13
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Regardless of materials, my take would be if the unit carried the spirit of what Argosy was about, then I could see the Argosy line being a runaway success. The basecamp would be pale in comparision. Why, well for starters, the Argosy line was lighter than the Airstreams of their day. Second, it was affordable, in a general sense. Third, it could further bridge the gap between the folks want a fully functioning trailer, but don't want to go out and buy a Mack truck to tow it and don't want to shell out the high end bucks or don't have the high end bucks for an Airstream.

I think if they did it and followed the basics of what it was, I can't see it being any less than spectacular.

At any rate, I found it interesting that the factory had a t-shirt with the Argosy name on it.
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Can you make the rounded fiberglass, or would it have to be flat roofed and leaking? By the way, what would be wrong with trying to build a new Argosy like my 78? It's light and has held up beautifully all these years. Why would you have to go with fiberglass? This was a great trailer in 78 and is a great trailer now. Could they make one like this now? Would it be cheaper than the Airstream. I know it would be lighter and could be towed without the Mac truck purchase.
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At the January IBT rally Larry Huttle spoke for Airstream and said there was plans to bring in a new line of Airstreams that would be 20% less expensive and 20% less weight. (I hope I got the percentage right, please correct me if I am wrong.)

However I found an old post on the internet about Base Camps and that post said that the Base Camps were originally supposed to list for much less than they ended up listing at. I can not vouche for the accuracy of that pot, but I did come across it. Also we all know that the new Classic motorhome for the anniversary year did not materialize so maybe a matter of actually just waiting to see...
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New Materials...............

.................are being used in the RV industry every day. I have friends that are major suppliers to the RV OEMs and they are experimenting with urethane end caps and side walls, carbon fiber re-inforcement areas, super light and strong honeycomb sheet goods (for flooring where plywood is now being used) and a bunch of still secret proprietary stuff.

If Airstream picks up on any of this new high-tech stuff, the next generation of Argosies (or whatever they call them) will be VERY interesting!!!
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Can you make the rounded fiberglass, or would it have to be flat roofed and leaking?
Sure can, take a look at the Casitas
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Costs...sheet metal costs (and general material costs) have been going thru the roof in the past several years, we have seen sheet stainless increase almost 400% in the past 3 years. Also FWIW Thor/Airstream is only in the business of making money, if they can't show a profit on the bottom line they are toast. And I suspect that Airstream is the current golden goose at Thor.

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Argosy, That's it.

Hi, I suggested that Airstream make an inexpensive, light weight, strippo trailer. Never thought that this could be the next Argosy. My suggestion was to leave out the Microwave oven, air conditioner, gas oven, stereo system Etc. and have the trailer set-up and pre-wired so these options could be added later.
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If there were to be a trailer in the iconic Airstream/Argosy shape, molded inside and out - even the furniture - and using other newer, better ideas such as an aluminum or galvanized frame, composits and sandwich board flooring, it could be a runaway hit.

New people with new ideas like this have to overcome the distribution problem to succeed. Companies like THOR have the distribution but they have to overcome inertia and complacency.

In the 1970ís, the Theatre de la Ville in the 4th arrondiesment in Paris had a very hip cafť built entirely with molded fiberglass and plastics. Seating, banquettes, bar Ė everything.

It was very cool.


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My suggestion would be an Argosy line made of two piece fiberglass shells to compete with Casita and Scamp (and Bigfoot). I've heard Casita can't make them fast enough. That would bring the cost down and keep them lightweight. Thor could then compete in that line of business also where right now they don't have a presense.
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