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Old 10-12-2007, 07:41 PM   #21
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Hi Dennis! How you doin'?

Karma should work if Jim wasn't among your last 10 karma recipients. No more than 10 karmas/day are allowed. And it is likely that your current problem actually is in some 4th dimension...
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:48 PM   #22
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Why can't I give Jim Karma? Karma to you Jim!
Wow, there is a name from the past.
I do not think that Jim is a member of these forums any longer.
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:40 PM   #23
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I do not think that Jim is a member of these forums any longer.
The same Jim who posted two hours and 8 minutes ago? I'm lost and promise to go to bed earlier tonight.
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:02 AM   #24
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In a pinch, wiping down the anodized skin with WD-40 will shine 'er up pretty good.

I soaks into the oxidation, wipes away the dirt, and gives it a nice satiny sheen.
The downside is it only last for about 2 weeks, collects road dust, and never-but-never lean up against it while wearing anything white.
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:06 AM   #25
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The same Jim who posted two hours and 8 minutes ago? I'm lost and promise to go to bed earlier tonight.
Not really, the post was made by denellen who quoted a post from 02-13-06.
I hope you got a good nights sleep....
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:27 AM   #26
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Some Avion insights

Avion is a very interesting story.
Oscar Selent, an Airstream owner and Caravanner lived in Benton Harbor, MI. Some way or some how his trailer was measured by the future manufacturers and owners of Avion.
Avion-to-be also purchased an Airstream and totally disassembled it. They blue-printed what they had done. Then reassembled it.
There will be a few items that I do not specifically remember, but I will italicize them.
I don’t know if the Avion came out in 1955 or 1956. They entered the South Bend RV show. The name of their first model was the Romney Cruiser?
At the show Avion only had one model, and handed out Airstream literature. Telling prospective customers that their trailer was the same as the Airstream specs as found in the Airstream literature.
Airstream went to court on “copy cat” principles. Avion had to change their contours and outside appearance. Whoopee for product identification, patents and copyrights. (I don’t know the year(s) of the court battle.)

This is from Sierra Neveda Unit, and is my rememberance of how Avion tried to duplicate and sell a product exactly like the Airstream.

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Old 11-12-2008, 08:23 PM   #28
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Some Avion insights...Whoopee for product identification, patents and copyrights... Pee Wee
Did they move production to China...?
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Did they move production to China...?
I don't know if anything has happened with Avion since Fleeetwood closed the plant.

At the time they purchased the plant it really wasn't their bailywick.

If it is in China, that is something that you have heard that I haven't heard.

With China entering the global automotive market over the next few years, maybe they will enter the RV world too. Who knows.
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to echo what some have already said
a) no plastic anywhere in my 87 Avion
b) really heavy to tow
c) it looks identical to one airstream in particular (square stream...?)
d) more headroom, and bigger cabinets overhead due to the shape
e) apparently high quality build (but i have little to compare it to)
f) anodized finish on the skin. not a good idea to try and polish it
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Old 11-13-2008, 01:06 AM   #31
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My 2 cents.

I had a 1959 23' Avion and I think it was of higher quality than my 64 or 68 Airstream. It was light to tow (3200 lbs) and it polished up nicely. As a rule you can pick up a Avion for less money because they don't have the cachet of the Airstream. I recently picked up another 1959 Avion for about half of what I would have had to pay for a Airsteam of similar condition and vintage. Well built and less money, a great combo.
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