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03-19-2013, 08:53 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Rosenberg
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1954 Elcar
Hello. I'm new here and I'm not sure I am posting this correctly, so please let me know.
I purchased a 1954 Elcar Travel Trailer 35 ft. I have not been able to find much information on it. I need to have it towed to Houston from Arizona and need to get new tires. Anyone have suggestions on where to get tires for this trailer?
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03-19-2013, 09:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
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Welcome
IT is easy to get tires, to get the right tires is another issue. I suggest that you start by doing some research here on the Forum. Try using the search function, search for Goodyear, Marathon, Michelin. After you have spent several hours reading the threads you will be a position to make a informed decision as to what works for you. Tires are one of the most important elements on a trailer and the wrong type can get stranded on the road or injured.
BTW I normally don't tell uses to use search but tires are a very important issue.
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03-19-2013, 10:32 AM
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1 Rivet Member
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Rosenberg
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I don't know the weight of this trailer or how to estimate the weight. Does anyone know where I could get this info?
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03-19-2013, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcdonaldse
I don't know the weight of this trailer or how to estimate the weight. Does anyone know where I could get this info?
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There isn't likely to be any factory published specs unless they reside in the trailer or another ElCar owner has written or scanned something to the internet.
Is the trailer gutted or full of oak or other heavy wood furniture? Most people would recommend taking it to a commercial vehicle weigh station off the highway to know its weight.
Generally speaking older Airstreams are lighter per foot than their newer versions but I can't say exactly how that would relate to your TT. At 35' I can imagine you'd want no less than a load range D or stronger tire.
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03-19-2013, 10:46 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
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Is your name Shannon, and is the trailer?
Transport My Vintage Aluminum Travel Trailer Elcar 35 to Rosenberg
A good starting point would be to get the information from the old tires, take some pictures. Are they split rims?
Nice trailer how about some interior shots?
I have a suggestion, contact a local tire shop and have them go look at the tires and rims. You may very well need to change out the rims also, depending on future use you may want steel or alloy rims, the tire shop can provide the lug bolt pattern the offset, and the load rating for the rims and tires all things you need to know. That is a lot of trailer you have there.
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03-19-2013, 11:08 AM
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1 Rivet Member
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Rosenberg
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Yup, that's the one.
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03-19-2013, 11:13 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
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Appear to be split rims, they can kill you. They have to go.
Do a search in Google on dangers of split rims. I have seen it happen.
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Jim N5TJZ Air# 174
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03-19-2013, 11:13 AM
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1 Rivet Member
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Rosenberg
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The big problem is that I am in Houston and the trailer is in AZ. I just have photos that were sent to me.
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03-19-2013, 11:18 AM
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1 Rivet Member
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Rosenberg
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I just need to get it to Texas, I won't be taking it anywhere after that. I was going to make it a guesthouse on our land. But I know it will have to survive a long trip to get here.
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03-19-2013, 11:31 AM
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You can't tow on those tires, and a tire shop may not want to work the split rims. I have to think the brakes don't work either. It may have to go on a lowboy. That is a lot of liability going down the road, be safe.
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03-19-2013, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Clark
You can't tow on those tires, and a tire shop may not want to work the split rims. I have to think the brakes don't work either. It may have to go on a lowboy. That is a lot of liability going down the road, be safe.
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Agree, those tires won't go the distance.
If you're not sure what Jim means by"lowboy" he's saying that it might be wisest to have your trailer towed to you, sitting stationary on top of a trailer, pulled by a large truck.
Also might make sense to have it done that way if you have no intention of towing this trailer anywhere, so making an investment in putting new wheels and tires wouldn't be the best use of your money.
I'm not sure what companies can tow this safely for you, hopefully someone with some experience will chime in.
Good luck!
-Marcus
P.S. Very cool trailer, hope you'll post some more pictures when you have it.
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03-19-2013, 06:59 PM
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Rosenberg
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Wow, this is a lot more complicated than I hoped. Thank you all for your input, I would appreciate any advice on this.
Thanks!
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03-19-2013, 07:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
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Marcus, has hit on the head. The problem you have is for the trailer to be towed a few miles it has to be in same same shape safety wise to tow it thousands of miles. Have you considered insurance, registration, license, your are putting a vehicle on the public highway with all the responsibilities and liabilities that come with that decision. I would get a quote from uship to have it loaded on a lowboy and moved.
Jim
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03-19-2013, 08:28 PM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcdonaldse
Hello. I'm new here and I'm not sure I am posting this correctly, so please let me know.
I purchased a 1954 Elcar Travel Trailer 35 ft. I have not been able to find much information on it. I need to have it towed to Houston from Arizona and need to get new tires. Anyone have suggestions on where to get tires for this trailer?
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Good luck with your project! Looks like a cool trailer. I'd enjoy any interior pics, if you have them.
Before traveling that kind of distance, there are several things that will require attention:
- Wheel bearings repacked and new seals installed
- Electric brakes replaced
- Tires replaced, using new rims if necessary.
- Lights and electric brake wiring checked and repaired as necessary
It sounds like a lot but is not an insurmountable job.
If the tires hold air, I would suggest that the trailer can be towed, cautiously and at low speeds, to the nearest location where repairs can be made.
You can check etrailer.com for brake prices. They also have some tires and rims.
Due to the size of the trailer I would assume you will end up running 225/75-16 E tires. You can use that as a starting point for discussions until you find out for sure.
It is possible that the rims can be reused. It depends on their condition and also on finding a shop willing to work with them.
I would suggest you find someone in Arizona you can trust or perhaps travel there yourself to get the tire and axle work done. Even with the airfare and time off work chances are you'll be money ahead over having it hauled on a flatbed.
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